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Lefave, Patricia
2/11/2012
What Level of Importance Do You Place on Talk Therapy?

In these days of bio psych and drugs as treatment, there is less and less availability to psychotherapy and alternative supports provided by the established mental illness system. In your own experience as a psychiatric survivour, what kind of value do you place on talking and why? Is this still necessary or is it just irrelevant now that labelling and drugging is seen as the new “improved” cost effective way to go?
 

 

 

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Lefave, Patricia
2/11/2012

I needed to talk my way THROUGH My Experience of Psychosis. 
I remember saying that to several of my psychiatric saviours. I was one of the “fortunate” ones since I managed to connect back then (95) with a couple of professionals who still had some human left in their being. But I know from the last ten years or so on line that this is NOT the case with many others, labelled and virtually ignored, by pretty much everyone, except for those brief drugging spot checks defined as “help.”

I needed to talk my way through it as it was vital to me that I got the experience out of me with words and also that at least one person really listened to me as I did it. It is like any traumatic experience as far as I am concerned; the only way out, ALL the way out, is THROUGH. Suppressing it does not do it and in fact, more often makes it even worse and the feeling is that of increased pressure from within rather than a release. This is a very traumatic experience and as with all traumas people often need to repeat it all back, in words, to find relief; sometimes over, and over, again until it gets integrated into our life experience. Doing so gives us back some control over our own lives at a level we can then handle, rather than BEING controlled by a PTSD reaction.  When we deal with those who really just want us to shut up and swallow that tranquilizer, who treat us like self contained “disease” processes and not as people just like them, it is like being left inside the experience as a permanent state and feeling trapped and very alone there. That is why we get such imagery when altered like “all alone and floating in the infinite” (mine) and ...”feeling very small and helpless.” Much of this comes from not being seen as truly human anymore.
So I would appreciate it if other survivours would express their thoughts on the value of talking their way through the experience and what differences it might have made in their own recovery or recovery speed, if any.

  

Lefave, Patricia
2/11/2012

In these days of bio psych and drugs as treatment, there is less and less availability to psychotherapy and alternative supports provided by the established mental illness system. In your own experience as a psychiatric survivour, what kind of value do you place on talking and why? Is this still necessary or is it just irrelevant now that labelling and drugging is seen as the new “improved” cost effective way to go?
 

 

 

  
 
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