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New Posts Titles List- May 2013

Wed, 29 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

1. What, Exactly, Does "Psychic" Mean?

Now on Unseen World

2. Local Theatre of the Absurd

Now on Talking AT My Psychiatrists

3. Scientology video Which MAY Seem Familiar

Now on Talking AT My Psychiatrists

4. Levels of Reality
Now on Truth to Power

5. Lose the Labels- End the Stigma

Now on Truth to Power

6. American NRA Coming out for Forced Treatment for the Mentally Ill

Now on Dysfunctional Realities

7. Not Playing the "Blame Game"

Now on Unseen World

8. "Voices" Video

Now on Altered States

9. Attention Confused Labelled People

Now on Questioning Normality

10. It's About Your Distinctions

Now on Talking AT My Psychiatrists

11. Another "Message" Just for All of You "Normal" People
Now on Truth to Power

12. Why All the Outright Denial?

Now on Observing the Observers

13. Season Finale OF "Touch"

Now on Talking AT My Psychiatrists

14. Making Those "Mysterious" Connections between Cause and Effect

Now on Hallucinating Reality

15. Dysfunctional Superior Splitters-Why?

Now on Unseen World

16. Crazy Sarah in Her Crazy World- Bus Stop Performance

Now on Psy-Fi (Psychiatric Fiction)

17. Short Awareness Exercise for City Employees

Now on Observing the Observers

18. From My Old Blog

Now on Unseen World

(updated with an answer to the psych student in Mass. trying to get me the "help" I obviously need.)

19. Communicating with Those Who are Sure They Know More

Now on Psy-Fi (Psychiatric Fiction)

20. THEMES OF LIFE

Now on Truth to Power

21. One Plus One MUST Equal Three

Now on Truth to Power

22. Going Around in Dysfunctional Circles

Now on Dysfunctional Realities

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Going Around in Dysfunctional Circles

Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

Infinite Looping the Dysfunctional Way

If you don't speak up about your mockers, ridiculers and abusers, you deserve what you get for failing to do so and not holding them accountable AND if you DO speak up, you deserve what you're getting for whining, bitching, and complaining, and blaming (which means “to hold accountable”) “others.”

Huh?... Having trouble making sense of things are you?

It is very hard to make sense of the senseless. In fact, most often it is only the senseless who can manage to do that.

For those of you locals who watch me every day, pass along all of the latest news and fabrications, make comments, and “interpret” me for others, while convincing yourselves that I can't see you, or hear you, from four or five feet away, YOUR behaviour and MY paranoid delusions are one and the same thing. One plus one equals TWO; not three.

To those of you who announce haughtily, “she's just teaching him a lesson!”[1]...

Judging by the tone of voice used, I'm sure you mean that as a shot at me. Especially when you add comments like, I would never treat “him” [2]like that! Still, there is some truth in what you say as a “lesson” sure as hell needs to be learned here and those of you assessing, evaluating and interpreting me all day amongst yourselves are the ones who most need to learn it.

[1] And there have been MANY of you over the last twenty years

[2] Various “hims” of course, but in any case I get the point that YOU are wonderful and I am a piece of crap. Understood. Or should I say I have the “under-standing?”

Going Around in Dysfunctional Circles

Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

Infinite Looping the Dysfunctional Way

If you don't speak up about your mockers, ridiculers and abusers, you deserve what you get for failing to do so and not holding them accountable AND if you DO speak up, you deserve what you're getting for whining, bitching, and complaining, and blaming (which means “to hold accountable”) those “others.”

Huh?... Having trouble making sense of things are you?

It is very hard to make sense of the senseless. In fact, most often it is only the senseless who can manage to do that.

To those of you who announce haughtily, “she's just teaching him a lesson!”[1]...

Judging by the tone of voice used, I'm sure you mean that as a shot at me. Especially when you add comments like, I would never treat “him” [like that! Still, there is some truth in what you say as a “lesson” sure as hell needs to be learned here and those of you assessing, evaluating and interpreting me all day amongst yourselves are the ones who most need to learn it.

[1] And there have been MANY of you over the last twenty years

[2] Various “hims” of course, but in any case I get the point that YOU are wonderful and I am a piece of crap. Understood. Or should I say I have the “under-standing?”

One Plus One MUST Equal Three

Tue, 21 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

By Patricia Lefave, monophrenic

In all dysfunctional relating one plus one MUST equal three. Do you understand WHY?

It is because if it equals TWO, it would be seen and understood as two sides of the SAME experience; not two different experiences separated by a third factor, often “disease process”, because that is a really good explain-away which makes it all appear to be the fault of absolutely NO ONE. The third factor keeps the two sides separated into superior/inferior, normal/abnormal and is a necessary factor to those who abuse/mock/ridicule/bully others and then justify it by telling THEMSELVES, “it is OK because the person to whom I am doing this does not really know or understand what I am doing¹ and that makes it all right to do it since s/he is my inferior.” It is the appearance of things that we all value so highly and we don’t like to let any reality get in the way of that, now do we?

You see, the genetic defective must remain the inferior one so that all the participants in the event can deny “responsibility.” This is, in my own fascinating “case,” exactly what my antagonist’s so called training is all about and that is but one of the punch lines of this multi-faceted “joke.” So the highly “amusing” part is that this event is full of denial, but like all the other aspects of It, It is projected onto the walking, talking disease process (aka ME) so the dysfunctional group in denial together can also close ranks and then deny the denial of the denial.

These are not their own traits or character flaws…oh no…they are all MINE and they are caused by a “disease” I have in my faulty brain that causes me to “think” I am surrounded by abusive assholes, smiling duplicitous often classy, liars, and smirking ass-holes, when “really” I am not. It is just that perception/reaction problem I am having caused by my faulty brain. Poor me…and lucky all of you! Aren’t you just so glad that you are not “sick” like me?

After that, the disease process is used as the containment field for control of the defective one. If I don't deny the reality of my experience with the group, which does not really exist, it must mean I need another intervention to make those erroneous thoughts of mine go away. We do not talk TO, or with, a disease process. We talk AT them, or ABOUT them, often in their presence, since diseases don’t have any ears to hear anyway since they aren’t actually sentient. Then what do we do with diseases? Why we “treat” them don’t we? Preferably by loading me up with enough tranquilizer to stop a charging rhino in it's tracks.

As we can see by the evidence it often takes a whole lot of tranquilizing to get the defectives to stop talking about how they, in their disease induced paranoia, are being "harmed."² Eventually though just the right “treatment,” often combined with behaviour “mod” tactics, and the threat of a nice relaxing taser session or two, is usually found. Financial pressure often works quite well too. So does telling the defective's employer that s/he is insane and without prospect of recovery. After all...who can ever trust an employee who has an awful disease like this? Now, if that doesn't encourage the walking, talking disease process to admit to being one, so s/he can get a nice pension for food and shelter, what will?

We also know that anything that comes out of a disease is a symptom of that disease so we can relate to IT as if it was not a real person like those of us doing the ‘treating.’ I am sure that had those of you who abused me psychologically, not that any of you did that of course, known when you were doing it, that I was a walking, talking disease process who “thought” she was being psychologically abused by a group, then you would not have done that, even though you didn’t do it and I only ‘think” that you did.

So, after reading this, who is the “confused” one or ones?

How will you treat that confusion then? Does it depend upon WHO “has it?”

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1Which is often a TRUE statement as we most often don't know that the abuser is engaged in splitting part of the self justification. We stupid inferiors look for “reason' aka logic, where there is none.

2Roll eyes here...

Themes of Life

Sun, 19 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

In the Flesh

This is a new show delivering “messages” to an audience. “1984” has already been mentioned. There is a new “disease” which has been identified as PDS. (Partially Deceased Syndrome, formerly known by the old unscientific term of “zombies.”) The PDS sufferers are given treatment and medication to fix the “chemical imbalance in their brains” which has been proclaimed to be the cause of this “illness.” Once they have been treated and given therapy for the problems associated with returning from the grave as the Undead, they are released and sent home to their loved ones, who are given instructions on how to watch for signs and symbols of regression to the previous state and, just as part of the release protocol, the relatives are issued tasers, which can be used with deadly force if necessary, just in case things go, ya know, “badly.” In episode one, a group of the “human guard” (aka “us”) discovered the location of a suspected PDS sufferer, an old woman, and dressed up in their military garb, armed with unregistered automatic weapons, as it is the constitutional right of the sane to bear arms, they dragged the PDS sufferer out into the street in the middle of the night and blew her defective head off.

Problems with Authority

If you believe that “having problems with authority” indicates that the one having the problems must also have a flawed character, I have a list of dictators and psychopaths, past and present, who would definitely want YOU on their “team.” You are their kind of people. Do you know why?

It is because if you accept “problems with authority”, which is a thought which is an abstract idea, at the nexus of meaning, they can use that to either control you, or get you to help them control those "others" who are not part of their “group.” They can do that because the statement itself can be used to justify a form of control and/or for hypnotic induction. People who don't question “authority,” as a generalized entity, or trait, turn their discernment of right and wrong over TO such authorities and let them do their thinking for them. If the “authority” happens to be an egalitarian, with good intentions and filled with ethics and integrity, this will not be a problem. But when it is one who operates with a hidden agenda, then the same abstract ideas used with a hidden agenda of domination mean something quite different.

Likewise, SMILING isn't necessarily an indicator of good social skills. Sometimes it is an indicator of a smug self-satisfaction or outright manipulation, being “interpreted” by others who see what they want to see rather than seeing what is really there, which is wearing a mask.

Tautologies Prevent Change

The primary goal of dysfunctional groups is to put a stop to all the talking about the existence of the dysfunctional group, as a dysfunctional group and the “rules” that make it, and KEEP it, intact as a dysfunctional group.

Tautologies are designed to PREVENT change. – but BEFORE you repeat that AS a tautology, assigning it a value as positive or negative, you need to know SPECIFICALLY, in EACH case, exactly what “the Change” IS, which is being prevented from occurring.

Pisatchio Press- May 2013

Sun, 19 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

More phrases of the week- like, "he Knew she was in Ontario........but he didn't know where..."

Apparently, or so it is said, “ it will be interesting to see where she goes from here with this...”¹” What? Only “interesting” and not “fascinating”? Are you becoming afraid of the 'Mr. Spock” association and worried that other psychiatrists will hear a “symptom” in you and decide that you must “think” you are in an episode of Star Trek ?

Also there is stated once again, No way she could have heard all of this from the public. It is just impossible...² there is just no WAY this is even possible...

As the pony-tail diddler, support worker, who has been keeping other support workers and bus drivers informed put it quite some time ago, the only reason he was even here was to see if he could find her... recently added,to that version of reality...“I've found her!

(lots of laughter) Of course, I remain irrelevant, mostly a bystander in the story of my own life which is treated like it is really none of my business.

This is not unusual as an experience for me. It is also not at all unusual for a whole lot of other psychiatrized people either...and that is WHY I continue on, in what seems to be a near hopeless battle to be HEARD as a person. I am not at all alone in that either.

I AM a person. As amusing as it might seem to psych students here, I am not a walking, talking, disease process, a case, a subject , or the whack job. I am A PERSON and you will learn to respect that, and to respect my boundaries, if I have to spend the rest of my days on this dysfunctional planet, trying to make you face reality and DEAL with it. There is however, no obligation whatsoever to LIKE me, and I promise not to pine away as a result of the rejection or beg anyone to change their mind and give me their stamp of approval so I won't spend all day telling bus drivers about how THAT one doesn't like me, and how THIS one isn't smiling enough to suit me etc..

That's her.

Scene on a bus:

Two psychiatrized women trapped in the system got off the bus on Delhi St.

“Everybody knows all about it including her. Yet they still won't admit this is real. It's just the same old story isn't it? It doesn't matter what you say or what you do because nothing makes any difference at all. So I mean what can you do?

Nothing really....(little laugh) except like her and write about it. At least we can get to talk about it that way and that's something at least but otherwise we just have to give up and accept our lives as other people decide for us what they should be. People don't understand how totally frustrating this is. They really don't. Your life is never the same after that.

One Other Point

For those of you in various places, including the apartment complex where I now live and who are currently engaged in the group discussion and ongoing group assessment of my personality and character: Some of you have expressed the opinion, over and over again, often from four feet away, that “nobody” is going to want to talk to her as they don't like her...

Just to reassure you; I am just fine with that. In fact, with SOME of you I am delighted to hear it. As amazing as it may seem to you, most of the people who don't want to talk to me are not liked BY me in return either and I have no particular desire to talk to them. I am sure that must shock you as you Imagine me just dying to “save” everyone from the error of their ways but in fact, I don't. That is because I relate as equals or not at all. I don't see myself as needing to save those who aren't interested in what I have to say, nor am I interested in talking you either into, or out of, anything. If you don't want to talk to me; I'm good with that. No need to beat it to death.

I don't think like bio psych. I don't see everyone as walking talking disease processes who either can't help it or who have no real experience and only “think” they do. I dont believe in hopelessness, helplessness nor excusing abusers by blaming their brains and overlooking their shit and acting out either. So relax, as anyone who never, ever wants to talk to me about anything will see no pressure from me to do so either. Choose your own way just as I choose mine.

I have nothing to debate with you so we are in agreement aren't we?

You see to THIS whack job, this is what “”getting along" really means. It is not about being smiling patronizing, sweet sounding "friends " with everyone you see around you. It is about tolerating their right not to be me as long as they stay in their own space with it as I do in mine, and about them not trying to make me be like them. It is always about the boundaries. It is not about being the same, or changing to suit others, nor having others change to suit me... PROVIDED mutual respect for personal boundaries is present.

Scene in a Retail Store – May 2013

Two Women

One in her thirties: That’s Pat right there. Apparently she was the victim not the aggressor.

Other one in her twenties: I don’t care. I STILL don’t like her.

So who are these two acting out from seven feet away? I don't know. I don't know either of them. That means they don't actually know me either, which also means that to either like me, or to not like me, is not really about me, or who I actually am, but more about their own story telling and rumour spreading while maintaining their "righteousness.". In other words, what I am saying is that total “strangers to me” are “talking about me, in the third person right in front of me, like I am not really there.”

Oh dear. Looks like I still have those “symptoms” of that intractable mental illness that causes me to “think” people I do not even know are talking about me and that this group behavior is harmful to me....should I expect a police cruiser soon to come to “help” me with this “imaginary” life experience of mine?

Phrase of the day, “she is very defiant…”

Oh dear…yet another of my endless list of character flaws. Thank God all of you are not as awful as me and people will like you for overlooking all these things as we all should.

Currently locally, May 19th 2013

A variety of long time labelled people and others are still (and again) talking about how “they” are still using what happened here and in Homewood with the staff, to continue to have them some “fun.”

“They” generally refers to either hospital staff or the local addicted population of “funsters” most of the time, some of whom have expressed the desire to see what they can do to “mess her up.” now these labelled people and many others as well, like to talk about what the hospital staff did to me all those years ago,[3] and how they STILL have not even apologized to her for it.

Of course, this which I am telling you about right now, has been assessed as a reality which exists only within my defective little brain- so no worries...after all who would believe ME anyway?

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1 Let's get some more opinions from Maurice the bank parking lot attendant on that shall we? Shall I get my “meds” all packed up and ready to go on this one too? Har har....

2 At least that is the news the public is acting out right now as it is being discussed by all the expert covert operators....

[3] (one thought it must be at least ten years now- actually it is twenty, and perhaps even twenty one, but twenty is when the “'fun” first entered my own awareness back when I thought it was a “joke” that included me as I was directed to think)

Communicating with Those Who are Sure They Know More

Sat, 18 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

by Sarah Robertson (I've been “helped')

What's it like?

Well, I'm glad you made sure you didn't ask me that. I will tell you anyway.

It's like: “They don't know what words mean.”

Concrete example

Psychiatric nurse: what would you like as a snack?

Patient: A banana.

PN: (Brings you a potato and hands it to you.)

Patient: Why did you bring me this? Is this a joke?

P. Nurse: (rolling eyes contemptuously, ignores patient and says to co-worker three feet away, “they've always got to be giving somebody a hard time don't they?” (the pair laugh conspiratorially certain the patient won't understand any of it anyway and you DON'T.)

Patient: What are you talking about? Where is the banana I asked for. Don't you have any?

P.N. It is right there on your table. Now just eat it and stop whining or you may be looking at losing more of your privileges.

Are you confused by this exchange? What's going on here?

Let me help you with this.

The nurse has been trained to recognize the potato as a banana. She has been taught that when an identified patient asks for a banana, what that patient REALLY wants and really MEANS is a potato. That is because people with that label all mean potato when they say banana. That has been written in the big book of insanity because once, in 1953, a patient in a sanitarium[1] used to ask for a banana when he meant potato. So the definers of reality in 1953 decided together that the belief that a potato was a banana was a universal “symptom” of that particular illness, as so labelled. The writers of the Big Book of Insanity, you see, never admit they are wrong about anything they have dreamed up as a one-size-fits-all abstraction until at least 50 – 75 years later, so that whoever came up with the definition, at the time, will be long dead and won't have to feel bad about anything they may have done that “may” harmed others; especially those “others” who “thought” they had been harmed by others, which is just another symptom of those who don't understand reality.

Of course, the patient who asks for a banana and really means potato does not have enough insight into their own condition to KNOW that, so that is why they sometimes give the staff a hard time about their snacks. Of course being annoying to hospital staff is also a symptom so sometimes it is hard to tell which of the endless list of symptoms is at play. But we do know that it is one of them because the patients are all defective human beings and the staff is all above reproach, at all times, and never wrong, and CERTAINLY could never be suffering from any kind of mental problems themselves. That would just be impossible. Everybody knows that.

So, the nurse knows that arguing with the patient just won't help. S/he has been taught to just ignore anything the patient says that does not fit in with the system's beliefs and use behaviour mod to get the patient to just eat the damned potato/banana and to stop all that whining and complaining about it.

You see the nurse GENUINELY believes that when a patient says 'banana” s/he means potato. The nurse knows this because an expert who is a highly trained authority on human mental illness taught the nurse that this is so, and s/he knows that s/he is not to question, or otherwise argue, with “authority.” The nurses, being in the lesser position could lose their jobs if they did that.

Reality is often a “trickle down” construct, similar to economics. As with an economy, it is often wiser to go along with it for the sake of one's personal economic outlook.

So you may ask yourself, should the patient in this situation try ASKING FOR a potato as the roundabout means of getting the banana s/he really wants?

No. That won't work. Why? Because the nurse will then believe that the behaviour mod is working very well and finally the patient is “admitting” that what s/he REALLY wants is a potato, just as the psychiatric nurse knew all along and which has now been proved correct.

Though there is no real cure for the patient, the treatment can be seen as a success.

The system is “making a difference', and no one can argue with that, on either side of the experience.

Pssst. Readers......Look down.....

I have a message for anyone going to visit at the health centre...could someone put a few bananas inside your coat, out of sight and maybe offer them to the well trained “clients” on the locked ward? Several of us here, who have lost our privileges, would be ever so grateful to you if you would. Oh. Don't ....let any of the staff here see the bananas OK?

Eat this note once read and understood. And Thanks.

[1] As “health centres” were all called then

Gail Hornstein-Video-Beyond the Medical Model

Thu, 16 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

Thought for the Day

Thu, 16 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

For Men

Always remember there is a whole lot more to true love than showing someone your big cannon. In fact, as you approach the end of your life, your cannon may not really be the equipment most needed to help or defend your damsels in distress.

For Women

If all he has to show you is how big his cannon is, it may be time to take a pregnant pause before you let that impregnator get his paws on you. The power of the potential to shoot tends to lose its fascination if the owner of the cannon really has no balls at all.

Now remember; don’t read too much into things, as if you do, those who read nothing at all, into anything, anywhere, may show up at your door to “help” you.

Speaking of Words and Meaning....

On Canada AM this morning, Jeff told us we were going out to the patio now to a talk with car loans...

As I was trying to decide why we were moving out to the patio for that, he introduced us to Carl Owens, who was there to talk about patio furniture. So if any of you were hoping for a really good rate on a new car loan, sorry, no news on that today. How words sound and what they mean have much to do with the context in which they are used, don't they?

Meaning/Meaningless

Wed, 15 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

Abstract or concrete or some of both?

When I was altered and flying in the abstract, in 95 in Trillium, with no anchor to concrete reality and no boundaries, the "Trickster" demon hunting me down like a dog-ma, I “knew” that I was “the rebirthing mother” and that my job in life and in this event, "was to turn that breech-birth around in my psychic “womb;” that spherical realm from which all life springs forth after the big bang (ha ha ) and after much long and painful "labour," I was to give birth to It, head first this time, instead of ass first.

Oh and by the way all you "experts"...I said I was going to have to "absorb it", that was not to be "interpreted" as needing to understand the meaning of it. It meant I knew that I was going to have to absorb one hell of a pile of community abuse before anyone had any clue what was really going on here, despite the fact that I already TOLD them that long before I broke under pressure.

Now as for the psychotic imagery from 95, all you experts see if you can find any "hidden meaning" in that!

And why would I NOT be laughing for no reason?

By the way...some of the SAME people who were acting this out on buses and mall etc. are acting it out still. Today one of them was telling another one that "they all treated her like she was a piece of crap."

More of my halluicanted conversations....you wish.

From My Old Blog

Wed, 15 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

I kept it because there continued to be people reading it despite the fact that I had stopped posting there for a long time. I began to post a bit again as a repeat from my website because they kept reading it. I want to "share my experiences" with all of you long time voyeurs in the local “snuff fantasy.”

...Like this Comment I Got yesterday on this older post from March 2010.

I get quite a few of these but I don't post most of them as they are all from the terribly "sane" people who want me to get controlled.

Still this one seems so typical of those who want to control the 'defectives' such as myself that I wanted to have a second look at it. In fact, I am moved to answer this one as a special post which will appear here soon... and thank you Kelsey Benson, complete stranger to me who is nevertheless quite certain about what I need and what my own experience is and where I have gone "wrong" in terms of an ambiguous abstraction of course...

and why I need to be controlled. She has taken courses in psychology you see and so I must be the naughty disordered child for blaming the blameless "others"....that is why I need to stop this blogging and get saved by the psychiatric faith....

How Do We Define Sanity and Insanity?

Now be sure to click on the comments and scroll down to the input from Kelly. I was going to ask her if her photo of choice indicated a certain exhibitionism but I didn't know if she was interested in getting a good diagnosis yet...

Here is my answer to my critic who wants me to stop this talking and get the help I obviously need:

“Correcting the Labelled People Who Deny They are “Sick”

Thank you Kelsey Benson, past or present psych student, for posting your comments and demonstrating for my readers what I am talking about. To perceive people like me who dare to suggest we are not sick, in the medical sense, and even go so FAR as to suggest that wellness is possible despite all the DENIAL of that by bio psych!

Some of the local ones like to act out on the streets where I live and express many of the same sentiments as you since they also aretaking courses telling them how people who say such things should be perceived. I want to especially thank you for clearly stating that you don't know me BUT, you are very sure that I am “IN DENIAL.” (psychology 101?)

It is just this kind of certainty and evaluation that I write about and I write about it because people who have not experienced this or been labelled for it, DENY that total strangers like you would then behave this way toward someone they don't really know BECAUSE that person received a label invalidating their perspective in such a complete and generalized way, that total strangers “correct” us and then direct us to the nearest psychiatrist to help us accept our “condition.”

I find it ever so interesting that you believe that having a blog “proves” a “personality disorder” to you and that you seem to think my sole purpose is to convince the public that I am not insane. By “the public” I am going to assume you mean people like you?

Actually I don't really care what you, or other strangers to me think; although no doubt that to will “prove” to be another of my “symptoms.” Once labelled EVERYTHING is a “symptom” to those who feel they are in much better shape than those total strangers they feel entitled to advise to get “help.” This previous statement of mine is one of the reasons I started this blog.

You will be pleased to learn that this blog is old and although I still post to it occasionally I have moved into even bigger and better outlets, actually have a website and also belong to many groups of “disordered” people “in denial” just like me, who think more like I do and many of them are actually mental health pros. Some of them right now are teaching in universities in various parts of the world. How wild and crazy is that? Go figure huh? Perhaps I can tell you where to find them too so you can send them all messages about how they are all “IN DENIAL” and should stop fighting against bio psych and GET SOME HELP for themselves! Or perhaps you already know some of them as I see you are in Massachusetts where many also live who are “resistant” to the medical administrations of bio psych. Hmmmm.

Do you know where I see the “denial”? In you. You deny that you are evaluating the lives and experiences of complete strangers and that there is anything wrong with that. I also hear you projecting your own mental¹problems and acting out on a surrogate. That would be ME being compared to your ex husband. I don't “represent” you ex husband. I am also a woman by the way. I find it interesting that you offered me a paired “choice” of either “trying to convince the public that I am not insane OR getting help.” Thanks for the choices but I am not very interested in either one as I am not going to define myself the way others want me to. I'm sure that upsets you. Tough. Perhaps if you can't handle the emotion of it you could go for some psychotherapy to help you vent safely.

I got a question or two for you Kelsey: does anyone ever actually do anything, to someone, designed to deliberately cause harm? If your answer is “NO” are you from this planet? If your answer is “yes” do you know who is whom, and HOW do you know that and especially how do you know who is whom amongst perfect strangers? Are you psychic?

If people who are harmed by others “deserve” what they get, is that a kind of safety delusion you have there? YOU can't get harmed by “others” or get labelled as a “disorder” because you don't do anything to “deserve” it? That is also a delusional belief a lot of people have because it gives them a false sense of safety and is sometimes referred to as the “Just World” delusion.

If you actually believe that no one can be drugged against their will and incarcerated as well, unless they have committed a “heinous act” then you are living in a fantasy world. If you try to make people fit into your “heinous acts fantasy” world as the justification for forced drugging, and incarceration, you have it backwards and you do this to justify your own point of view about someone you don't even know. So that is denial Kelsey. Ironic huh?

I also enjoyed your justification for the “secrets” of the DSM. Isn't it interesting that most people can't connect patients saying they are dealing with people who act like "the CIA" and the “covert operators” running the system are always acting like that can't see any connection or meaning in it that INCLUDES them?

Somehow I think I am going to be the “sick one” no matter what is true, or what I think, or don't think, which you have covered quite nicely in your comments. I can't help but wonder what your ex husband's version of events might be. Not that I would necessarily accept that but then I don't necessarily accept yours either, psych courses or not. The point I need to make here is that I did not live with you and your husband so I really don't KNOW what went on between you and which of you is the most disturbed. That's why I don't go to your facebook page and try to get you the “help” I decide a stranger to me really NEEDS.

I found your face book page, and I must say, I found it very surreal in that you seem to be “correcting” others who try to tell their own story, while ALSO doing the same thing yourself. Should I suggest you get off the net, stop doing those stupid updates and trying to convince the public you are innocent, have been wronged, and to go get some therapy!! Or would that be “different” when it runs in the other direction?

Let's all visit my critic here and see how she perceives her own life shall we?

This is Kelsey Benson generously Helping the World by Correcting Me.

You may need to sign in from facebook to visit with Kelsey.

The assumption that “families” are ALL loving wonderful people who would never harm the labelled one, knowingly or unknowingly, is frankly bizarre. This is not the real world which anyone can see by picking up a newspaper. To suggest that either caring or not caring what other people think, without defining those thoughts and ideas specifically makes one even “sicker,” is more of the usual abstract concepts presented as the all inclusive, one size fits all, DSM style version of truth which is of course, a load of crap, similar to predicting life and reality for others by using horoscopes or going to the psychic fair. It has no real SUBSTANCE. They are theories with limited usefulness and which, when proved WRONG need to be abandoned. Mental illness has BECOME a huge problem in large part because real problems of life and relationship do not get identified let alone dealt with. Instead, they get labelled as “real diseases” and treated as if they were a disease instead of a psycho-spiritual problem. So we suppress them with tranquilizers or feed the complainers happy pills and IGNORE the reality which produces them and keeps them going.

My continued blogging, website and activism, IS about the solution and not the ignoring of “a disease” that doesn't exist but which someone like you tells me I MUST have.

Your quoting of Einstein applies just as easily to the bio psychiatrists and to all those who keep insisting we must see this as a disease process as it does to all of us who keep trying to penetrate the resistance to hearing. Einstein also said something else, “Am I crazy or is it everyone else?”

If a psychiatrized person said that, I think that you would automatically assume it was the one who asked the question. Yet if it was Einstein asking, would the answer be the same? Or would it depend more on who you thought the person was in terms of status than what he or she was actually saying?

I agree with you that there is a truth problem here, just not with the source of it.

One last question for you: it is possible for those running the system to lie, cover up truth, exaggerate, understate, take care of their own interests at the expense of others, keep information out of the story to make themselves sound better? Again I ask you, if yes, should we avert out eyes from that? If no, tell me why that is not possible and how you know exactly what is what, and who is whom, in a situation that has precisely nothing to do with you and which in reality you know nothing about other than what you are yourself PROJECTING into it?

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1 And by “mental” I always mean psycho-spiritual and not a real “disease process like diabetes.” I maintain hope for you and do not blame your brain for your current thinking and behaviour.

An Oldie But a Goodie- Sing a Long

Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

( before we all go back to Tipperary.....)

A Little Sing a Long
Smiling Faces
By the Temptations, Psychedelic Soul

Smiling faces sometimes pretend to be your friend

Smiling faces show no traces of the evil that lurks within

Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes

They don't tell the truth uh

Smiling faces, smiling faces

Tell lies and I got proof

The truth is in the eyes

Cause the eyes don't lie, amen

Remember a smile is just

A frown turned upside down

My friend let me tell you

Beware, beware of the handshake[1]

That hides the snake

I'm telling you beware

Beware of the pat on the back

It just might hold you back

Jealousy (jealousy)

Misery (misery)

Envy I tell you, you can't see behind smiling faces

Your enemy won't do you no harm

Cause you'll know where he's coming from

Don't let the handshake and the smile fool ya

Take my advice I'm only try'n to school ya

[1] Just want to take this moment to say Hello to Ed Perez from this thought disordered moment of mine..no rhyme or reason for it of course. say...do yoyu suppose the Temptations were, ya know....paranoid too?

Crazy Sarah in Her Crazy World- Bus Stop Performance

Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

Sarah stood at the bus stop near her building. She was on her way to the library and then to what was now left of her job, post labelling, which was not much. She had full time hours when she got “helped” the first time but that ended a long time ago without any direct communication from, or to, her. She thanked God that she was so old now that her pension would keep her from homelessness, something she knew might have been the outcome had she been much younger when she was targeted for “saving.”

One of her sweetest and most charming of neighbours, as others perceived her, Molly, was there at the bus stop as well. Engaging in her customary mocking and ridiculing routine, which she used often to raise herself “up,” she decided to make a few amusing comments about Sarah and her character flaws, as they were perceived by Molly, to one of the male residents of her building, who liked to hang out at one of the downtown bars all day. There, he too enjoyed mocking and ridiculing the inferior “others” with those who were very much like him. So he and Molly felt a chummy connection.

Molly thought she would inform the neighbour at the bus stop that Sarah there, suffers from such self-delusion. She then fabricated an amusing little “story” about Sarah to give it some punch, and the pair of them shared a good laugh together. They were so glad that they were not self-deluded like Sarah there.

As they saw the bus coming round the bend, they moved a few steps closer and then Molly went into her usual act, talking directly then, TO Sarah now, she smiled sweetly and employed her soft, patronizing little tone, while making friendly sounding comments about the weather. The daily drinker just looked away as always. He would wait to discuss the latest on Sarah, later on perhaps with one of the bus drivers or his drinking buddies.

Thank God these two don't suffer from such self-delusion like that of Sarah, who is, of course, too stupid and/or crazy to have any idea what Molly and her amused neighbours are really like when they are four feet further away.

If only Sarah could be more like them, she too could feel so much better about herself, just like her neighbours were doing it right then.[1]

[1] “Covertly “ of course

Short Awareness Exercise for City Employees

Tue, 14 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

Let's see if the Workfare office staff, bus drivers, and library staffers and garbage truck drivers related to Homewood staff can locate a connection between people who are psychiatrically labelled because they “think” that library staff, workfare office staff, and bus drivers are “talking about them” and BEING the library staff, workfare office staff and bus drivers DOING all the talking about the psychiatrically labelled.

HINT: Concentrate on finding the hidden meaning and from whom, the meaning is being hidden.

Now if it should suddenly dawn on you that you have always been visible and audible, you still have two choices for defending your position.

A. Deny the whole thing. This is the most common tactic employed. However, sometimes that will not work as there may be witnesses who would seem credible to others, have a conscience and feel compelled to speak up. This does not happen often but occasionally it does. When groups turn into mobs, it is harder to silence everyone you see. So, should this be the case, most people then move to the second position.

B. Admit it, but then blame me[1] for it in some way. The most common ways are claiming I should have told you, that you were visible and audible from one to ten feet away. Or that I plotted to make you look bad. Or that I am exaggerating and making a big deal out of nothing just to seek attention. All of those should work OK for you as they are all written in the Big Book of Insanity as “symptoms” of mine and have stood the test of time, so you can site that as proof.

Awareness Changes Reality

Testing and observing the “Subject”

When you see yourself as an objective tester and observer, there is an assumption in that of having a greater awareness than those whom you observe as your “subjects.” So that is the premise of your thought and therefore the starting pint of your test as you understand it.

So think about how your observations and conclusions must change regarding these two aspects of your supposedly objective position.

You test the subject to see what kind of a reaction you will get and then you assess the reaction according to your own understanding and expectations. So think of the difference in reactions between someone you test “covertly” and the reactions you get from someone who knows they are BEING tested by you.

Take as long as you need to see a difference. When you think it is coming to you, read on.

Now think of the difference in your observations between observing someone you believe does not know you are doing that, and observing someone you know is aware that they are being watched by a group of people who are pretending they aren't doing anything, while watching you, watch them.

You see, we ask people like you, “Why are you doing this to me?” Or sometimes, “why are you treating me this way?” without spelling out specifically what “this” is in precise terms. That is because we don't think we need to EXPLAIN the bloody obvious.

You people then “transform” being watched, followed, reported on, mocked, ridiculed, having our personal boundaries violated, and assessed into “symptoms” of our “pathology” because you exclude YOURSELVES and your perfectly obvious and frankly scary, group behaviour, from the equation.

You just don't want to know that, that (objectification) which you are observing is observing you, MEANS, because it is a statement of equality. You aren't relating as equals. You are relating as superior minds/people to inferior minds/people, when often, those you look down on, are not only equal in awareness and understanding but more aware of their shared reality than you.

It's about levels of awareness; not brain function.

[1] Or any other psychiatrized people that you are talking about in the third person in their presence..no one will believe “us” anyway.

Making Those “Mysterious” Connections between Cause and Effect

Mon, 13 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

(Not “or”)

By Patricia Lefave, Monophrenic

Two Psych Students

Student A: I am having a lot trouble talking to the patients like that.

Student B: Well, I do it by just thinking of them as naughty children. Then I can handle it all right.

Naughty Identified Patient: I'm afraid the chemical imbalance in my defective brain is causing me to speak and inappropriately confront this idea. But then...you know how very naughty we genetic defectives can get.....sigh...you see we patients like to complain, that we “think” we are talked down to and patronized by mental health pros who treat us like “naughty children” being “corrected.” I tend to think of our pseudo “parents” as snotty little bitches or contemptuous mocking little bastards, trying really hard to feel ever so superior to those they define as their “inferiors,” most often by using the label that has been given to “them.” When I do it this way I find I can handle their nonsense much better.

In fact this labelling business seems to be connected somehow to shopping for just the right outfit. What makes me say this?

Well, one male psych student pointed me out to two of his female friends on a bus one day, quite a few years ago now, then, after looking me over, they noted together that I was one of the town whack jobs and that “none of them have ANY fashion sense at all!”

Very often, the psych students (the Holt-Renfrew People) are so very relieved dahling that they are not at all like those oh-so-tacky, Value Village people. They understand that the top priority in life is their fashion label and contemporary styles which make even the poorest of people want to live to see another day, whatever else may, or may not, be going on in their actual lives. See what I mean?

The people who really care about labels are also the ones who like APPLYING them to those “others,” others whom, (thank God) they are not anything at all like themselves.

Of course we naughty children must all remember that we can't say anything like this directly TO them as it is really about who holds all the power and whose SIDE is everyone on. It is not about who is right, or wrong, or even about our own reality. Besides if you were actually to call them the names you have for them, they would not see the connection between the remarks they make about you, from four feet away and your return commentary as they are most often “hiding in plain sight” from an “inferior” mind when they are assessing your lack of fashion sense, while making faces at you, like you aren't really there.

This is because once you have been officially labelled, there is nothing you can do about the perceptions of others. All escape routes, or attempts at resolution by being heard and taken seriously, have been blocked by identifying everything you say or don't say, do or don't do, as a “symptom.”

All you can do is cope with the results as best you can and get some real support for your negative experience of it from some other people, mostly labelled as well, who have gone through it themselves.

Or you could also try to get one of the designers of the new “catalogue” to choose a new label for you that you feel is more in keeping with your station in life and your social standing, like those who have higher levels of education, titles or bigger bank accounts tend to get, even though they supposedly have all of the same “symptoms” as you. It's not why you’re crazy. It is where you are crazy, or sometimes who you are crazy “with.”

...and please, you tacky people, who are living on one hundred dollars a month after the rent is paid; could you PLEASE get some decent fashion sense? Ask the guy at St. Vincent de Paul or the woman at the Salvation Army store to direct you to the new skinny jeans rack and the bling department will you?

Dysfunctional Superior Splitters-Why?

Mon, 13 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

The psychiatrist who labelled me in 11 cost effective minutes tried to point out my “delusion” to me by asking, “But WHY would they DO such a thing? Do you not see? He/they would have NO REASON to do so.”

Here's your reason:

They do it for the emotional payoff they get from doing it which is two-fold.

A. They get to FEEL better about themselves by looking down on those they define as “less than” and who "deserve” it.

B. They get a form of bonding/belonging from their agreement with the dysfunctional group of people who think and act out just like them. This makes their thinking and behaviour “normal.” (Common, a consensus reality) Since it does, then they can thank God, the universe, evolution, their genes, etc. that they aren't a nut, defective, or an inferior human being etc., like him/her/them.

THAT'S the reason. And there is no reason (logic) in It.

The dysfunctional superior splitters HAVE to talk both “us” and themselves out of knowing we can see them and hear them, acting it all out, see and hear their contemptuous mocking and ridiculing etc. from a few feet away. They HAVE to keep themselves convinced that their group behaviour isn't “really” abuse or harm, because that is HOW they justify it and that is how they keep themselves deluded that they are all “hidden” in plain sight.

Season Finale of “Touch”

Sun, 12 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

(on Global)

more
Messages off the T.V. for Those Who Can't Hear.

By Patricia Lefave, Monophrenic

The corporation which is after all the power and control over pretty much EVERYTHING and everyone now has the two autistic children in their “research” lab. They are trying to force them to complete a numbered sequence faster than it was going to happen as they are concerned about being “found out” and stopped. The sequence completes a “circle.” The number at the starting point sounds strangely close to Pi.

As we complete this episode, Jake, the non- verbal child of 11, talks to us in the narrative overlay of the series:

“Signals, signs, patterns , lie all around us. All we have to do is learn to see them. Yet change the language used to describe them, and we are all lost, stumbling to understand the simplest of concepts.

We use language in an attempt to communicate with each other, to make the connections we all need to find.”

If I was in an altered state of consciousness right now, and this came on the T.V. in Trillium, surrounded by Homewood staff who had no ideawhat I was talking about, and I was trying right now to make sense of my overwhelming experience...looking for the information that would help me to DO that, I might very well perceive this as a “message” from God, or the writer of the show, or Kiefer Sutherland¹, or the universe itself, depending upon my own personal psycho-spiritual point of view.

(Richard Dawkins, on the other hand might see it as a message from Stephen Hawking and the Perimeter Institute!)

Altered states aren't meaningless; they are meaning Full-TOO full in fact to sort out at the time we are in them and overwhelmed by them.

In this episode of Touch, their current helper, and good friend Avrim, the orthodox Jew, takes his leave and goes back to his own work saying as he leaves then, “I have been Through the Looking Glass²and I have made it back.”

I feel much the same way.

Cashew Commentary:

So, do you psychiatrists see any signs, signals or patterns here? There is a large group of us, most often perceived by you, and others, as “less than,” who see and hear this all in a way that you, and many others, don't see it. Currently we are in the minority but I think in that weird way that I have, of knowing things, that this too is about to CHANGE.

Change your own minds; change the world. You already HAVE the “Messiah” Delusion, or Complex. Just change the WAY you USE that, so that it lifts us ALL up together, as a HUMAN Whole, almost like in a “Rapture³” you might say, instead of suppressing truth to save some “others,” at “our” expense. For in reality I am the “other” to you, just the SAME as you are the “other” to me.

So can you blame me for having my point of view? Of course you can't...because you are NOT the kind of people who blame “others,” especially for what you do to yourselves...or ARE you?

Life is often like a “Comedy or Errors⁴.” It is just not quite so “amusing” when you are on the receiving end of all the “fun.”

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1 Personally Kiefer Sutherland is not like God to me.....(smile)

2 Another one of “our” common metaphors for the experience. When we look in a mirror, the image reflected back to us is “reversed.”

3 Rapture; to rise up to higher state or condition

4 Which is what I TOLD my recovery therapist Rhea L. this was like in 96 and then AGAIN when I got forced out of my job and back into the system for the second time in 99

Why all the Outright Denial?

Sun, 12 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

Why the Closing of Ranks and Protection of the est-ee?

That way, everyone else involved gets off the hook, sidesteps responsibility for it, just like the individual who started it all in the first place, and the victim (who only “thinks” she is a victim remember) is kept in place as the scapegoat for the whole group, so that THEIR lives will remain unaffected by any negative fallout from the incident.

Got it?

Congratulations then...you are now all “est graduates” courtesy of the self proclaimed “est-ee,” running his “game,” as a “recreation” (do-over, or repeat performance, AND “fun”) “out here in the world of reality” where he has “shared his experience.”

Tell me, is it as much “fun” for you as you had hoped it would be?

You see, folks, we who try to EXPOSE this group ¹behaviour really HAVE to be the “defective” ones. Otherwise, the participants would be forced to actually SEE that they have become part of a mob, would wake up to it as reality, and would then feel obliged to “do something about it.” They don't want to have to do something about “It” as it might cost them something to “admit” to their participation in it and to admit they were wrong to behave the way they did. Further to that, they would have to look at themselves too closely and see how easily they are swayed by those with hidden agendas of domination into acting out AS a mob on those who are socially sanctioned targets for this kind of group behaviour. So to avoid that, since it doesn't FEEL GOOD, we come up with alternative “realities” like, “really, there was no “Holocaust” or any other mass murders performed by perfectly ordinary “normal” people as that would not make any sense. Therefore, (switch) it MUST be those who claim they had this experience who are not making any sense and who at the very least MUST be exaggerating it all, “just to seek attention.”

We humans like the circle because it allows us to get AROUND any reality we don't like.

As the est-ee leader tells the trainees, regarding “it”, “You may as well. You can't change anything anyway.”

Because full blown sociopaths and all others of similar mind, to varying degrees, many of whom are perfectly “normal” average, people, just like your own neighbours, relatives and friends, who get caught up in something they did not fully understand, ALWAYS find a way to justify themselves at the expense of their victims. I am trying to transform that into "almost always."

That is WHY this kind of power and control “works.”

As it might be put on Dr. Who?....when talking about the scariest monster of them all;

...and The Silents, continue(s).....

Message off the T.V.Just for all of YOU.

It is not that this CAN'T be resolved. It is that those who participated in It don't WANT It to be fully resolved. They want it to be kept “hidden in plain sight.” For they are the “others” who can NEVER be blamed (held in any way accountable) for what they do. The best way to ensure that is to deny the existence of the ENTIRE experience, often while claiming, There is no reality; only perception.

One more quote from the est experience: and Werner/Jack;

“Reality is substantial, (which means CONCRETE and not just an ambiguous abstraction in absolute terms, connected to precisely nothing) and will knock you on your ass.”

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1 And understanding that this is about the whole GROUP and the group-think and behaviour is key to this

Another Message- Just for All you “Normal” People

Sat, 11 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

By Patricia Lefave, Monophrenic

From the Current T.V. Series “Hannibal”

(see it on City)

Hannibal was a surgeon who switched to psychiatry. He now helps the primary detective working on the serial killer case.

Hannibal’s pleasure comes from his dexterity as a Splitter. He is an 'expert' at it in fact, leading his detective friend and his own psychiatrist as well, to the places he wants, or expects, them to go. He is also playing mind games with a lot of other people including someone else very close to him.

Hannibal also talks at the nexus of meaning. On one occasion, when he was talking, he had been telling his detective friend about his love of gourmet cooking; mostly meat dishes, and then they continued to talk over the difficult case which they are working on “together.” (smirk) During this conversation, he says to his detective friend over a drink together, “You must come to my place and bring your wife with you. I would really love to have both of you for dinner.”

Hannibal Lechter, Humanitarian (but never Vegetarian)

Psychopaths like the “edge.” They are often “well balanced” themselves. (smirk) They enjoy driving others over it. It makes them feel so very powerful when they do. Sometimes they even enjoy having their targets declared to be the psychopaths instead of them. It's a real hoot for them but of course they don't laugh or smile too much if anyone can see them. This kind of thinking you see, gives them power OVER those with, AND without, “theunderstanding.”

(think about it as similar to a palindrome, especially in terms of sound)

Now if you have ever had to deal with any con artists in your life, in a more up close and personal kind of way, who all talk and act like this, to one degree or another, in any form of this “game” you tend to hear it faster and easier than other people who have not as yet had the same kind of experience.

Hannibal likes to involve others in his actions who will co-operate with him unknowingly, because DOING so increases his sense of his own power over them. It's his 'secret” power. Having and keeping the “secret” is a big part of the rush he gets from it. He “plays” them; but they don't KNOW they are being played because of their assumptions about “reality” and who is going to be the “reasonable” one. For Hannibal is, after all, a doctor and “doctors are good.”¹

Hannibal will target anyone around him who starts to see who he really is behind the mask. One character on the show has already started to see him; to see that something is just not quite right with Hannibal. He is seeing something not quite “hidden.”

Someone who was in my life long ago once asked me how I knew what was GOING to happen on a T.V. show before it happened. I told him, “they said it...well, they didn't SAY it specifically, but I am extrapolating from the information they have already provided in what they ARE saying. It's part of the pattern of events unfolding, kind of thing. It is not one hundred per cent accurate of course. It is more like a really good guess. If they change any of the variables now in what is going on, the outcome will be different.

We are creating our own reality now. It is a construct on a GROUP level. The premise we use, the primary goal we have, and the kind of leaders we are willing to follow will determine our collective fate.

Personally, I believe that “Hell,” the opposite of “Heaven” is a dimension we are creating out of our own collective arrogance, certainty about everything, the need to ''dominate” and “win” the contest most people seem to believe they are in, against others. THAT is splitting. We might be wise to change our premise of thought so that we don't all end up actually GETTING for ourselves, exactly what we “thought” we wanted.

Imagine living in a dimension where EVERYONE thought and acted just LIKE YOU and who also needed to “win” the domination contest at all costs? What better description of “Hell” could there be?

You see, to ME “Heaven and Hell” are quite real but they have more to do with quantum effects than they do with floating on clouds wearing wings or being trapped and burning in the centre of this earth. It is more like developing the metaphorical “wings” that will allow us to “fly above” all this mess we have made and get out of it finally, or choosing to continue making a mess and getting ''trapped” in our own collective stupidity and going back into the earth out of which we came, still as dumb as when we arrived and “burning” with the desire for the resolution that was right under our own noses the whole time.

Equality of being cures the collective insanity. Equality² with boundaries is to humanity, as insulin is to the diabetic.

Homewood Staff:

Have you figured out what “I am not the one who doesn't understand; YOU are,” means now? Or can't you hear me yet?

Hint: It's about a psycho-spiritual “deafness”; not problems with your eardrums or how loud I am yelling while trying to get heard.

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1 Like parents, lawyers, cops, judges, teachers, nurses and priests who all belong to a subset of society known for their collective “goodness” and honesty. Only the crazy people would see “evil” in such people right?

2 Cause I KNOW how you psychiatrists just LOVE to compare everything to real “diseases” just like diabetesso dopey me is trying to talk to you in your own jargon.

It's About Your Distinctions

Fri, 10 May 2013 00:00:00 GMT

That is a concept from the self defined est-ee nurse's training. So here is what I want you to think about today using my own fascinating 'case' as your example.

I want you to think about the subtle difference, or distinctions, the “razor's edge” distinction between thinking you understand what is “reality” in relation to an idea like:

She thinks she has been set up by someone to look like she is crazy and then attacked by a mob until she broke under the unrelenting pressure and stress created by the experience of it..

and

She's crazy because she “thinks” she was “set up” by someone, who was (supposedly) “deceiving” a group of people he got to join him in it and who were then attacking her for no reason.

Same overall event, but different description, emotional content and attitudes.

Now imagine being on the receiving end of this with no one talking to you genuinely or directly about it, although they all talk to each other as much as they like and they talk ABOUT you behind your back and/or from a few feet way, while also denying it. They also tell you that you are not “allowed” to talk to any of them about this nor are you allowed to talk about it in public as THEY cannot “allow” that. Also the one you “claimed” had “set you up” can say anything he likes about you to anyone he pleases.

Now without blaming any of those “others” who can never be blamed. Try to make some kind of sense out of your experience, bearing in mind of course that if you say to these same people that you are having trouble making sense of it, that will “prove” to them that you are mentally ill.

Now in order to get out of the position into which you have been forced by these group judgments, you are going to have to convince these same people that what you are saying is REAL, not your “delusions” knowing that these people have already been trained to hear everything you are saying AS delusions and that they consider themselves to be experts in the definition of reality. This means that if you want to get the “mob” of people involved to stop assaulting you in a variety of ways, you are going to have to try to get them to HEAR the truth you are telling.

Now in my own 'case” the locals who participated in this themselves can't hear it even when I knew the NAME of the “game” my own antagonist was suing to created the chaos and confusion, which most people DON'T know when it is done to them and which they don't understand. Many people have never even HEARD of this which includes several of my own TEAM¹ of psychiatrists. This is what happens at the nexus of meaning. That distinction is often about nothing more than WHO someone else decides, quite arbitrarily, they will believe and that belief is often about nothing more that status or titles or expectations. Theses may be ideas like “parents” would never harm their own children” or “psychiatric nurses would never play mind games with someone.” Those are abstractions in absolute terms. They are not reality. That is why Fenwick talks about giving up the “Family Romance.” THAT is the real Fantasy World that leaves so many vulnerable to abuse, hidden agendas of domination and dictatorships. It is this kind of blanket denial by the majority that makes it possible for anyone who is seen as one of the good or normal or superior people to do what they do and to get away with IT.

One woman I found online some years ago who broke under pressure described the training this way: “they take you to the razor's edge of insanity.”

I THINK I have been harmed by others.

What that means of course depends upon your perspective, your point of view and of course, “from WHERE you see the start of the action.” If you are not sure what that means, ask the est-ee psychiatric nurse to explain it to you but don't be too surprised if he can't remember since he was instructed inside the training not to reveal the contents of IT but only to “share the experience out here in the world of reality.”

I just want to help him do that.

1 Because some nuts are harder to crack than others