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Locating Topic Material 

One of the other things you can do on this site is use the on site search engine to locate topic material. If I have anything posted about certain ideas, groups, news pieces or organizations etc. the search engine will locate the titles and pages where they can be found. You just type in some useful search term like “alternatives” or “The Matrix” or “Brave New World” etc and see what it finds for you. It usually takes a few minutes to do.

 

 
 On Stigma-
This one was sent to me as a creation by one of the "Less Than Thrilled" psychiatric survivours in Canada Clara Hughes he is NOT. I can also relate to much of what he is saying here. Margaret Trudeau I am Not.
The point is there are alway two sides to imperfect "help" and when one side is suppressed and invalidated we open ourselves up to dictatorships, and dictatorships abuse power as if it was their "right" to do so. 
 
 
 
 
Please Watch the Tone of Your Posts 02/13/2012

 On the Public Board

I want to say that I would like everyone to keep the language and the potential slanderous remarks well toned down OK? I really want to keep this board up without any threats from people with power to change that.

I know people are angry, resentful and frustrated for many legitimate reasons but please speak from your OWN personal experience and how you felt about it and not from other people's stories or gossip. If you have not read the PDF files above regarding the use of this board please do. You can download them to your own computer or flash drive. It is pretty simple and leaves lots of head room to communicate honestly.

 

 

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Does Having Someone fill a Role as an Active Listener Change Outcomes?

Do many of you wish that you could just find someone who would just listen to you and take you seriously? Does being diagnosed and labelled in ten to fifteen cost effective minutes remind you of your own experience?
Do you feel like you are not seen as real, or as human, as those who label you and those who accept your labelling as if it was indicative of who you are?
Do you feel largely invisible as a human being?
Do your drugs make you feel sick?
Are you one of those who finale FOUND someone who would listen?
How did, or would,  a listening ear change outcomes for you?
What do you need that you are not getting from today's Brave New Bio Psych? 

713605/29/2013 12:29
Getting Started on Talking Back- the Other Perspective

On Clara Hughes and the “Let's Talk Campaign” 

For those of you not in Canada who have never heard of this, here is a reference to what I am talking about here. 

Clara Hughes


723014/3/2012 13:07
The No One Must Be Blamed “Game”

Currently I have seen that at the first hint that the psychiatrized person even suggests that someone in their life is to blame for something which has had a negative impact on the psychiatrized person's life or well being, he or she most often gets the mental illness system auto response delivered like a knee jerk reaction to suggestion, without any connection, or any interest in even the possibility of wrong doing by those “others” who can never be blamed for anything. Most often heard seems to be “We (the imperial “we”) can't blame others.”

Not being “allowed” to blame[1] anyone else for anything, anytime or anyplace sure does make a great debate stopper, but is it a valid idea to promote and impose such “one size fits all” concepts to individual situations?
I have not found this helpful and in fact, I believe that in many cases it has just the opposite effect and does more to prevent resolution and enable abuse, while defending and protecting the abusers, than anything else.
If you think so too and would like to share your thoughts or personal experiences on this topic please do so.



[1]  The dictionary definition of “blame” is: “to hold accountable” which may not have anything at all to do with any action other than SAYING, “I hold you accountable for your own behaviour.”

101043503/29/2012 13:26
Communication Problems: Words and Meaning

 

I believe that much of the problem with the system comes from splitting the “difference” in words and meaning. 

 

Words like; “God, set up, strangers talking about me, being watched, abused, threatened, mocked,” etc. ...all take on a meaning in psychiatry that does not apply in the same way in the world outside the parameters of psychiatric diagnostics. Psychiatry is its own little world apart from everyday reality.

 

That's a big part of the problem too. To say such things without a psychiatric label is very different than saying the same things with a psychiatric label, or even if it has just been suggested that you should HAVE a psychiatric label. This is the only profession that deals with life and living, with experience, perception and emotional reactions “as if” it could all be defined as absolutes, as abstract truth, in one size fits all terms. In reality, that is not how life is, and not how life works. If you are one with personal experience of this sort of relationship, consider talking about it publicly here so that those yet to BE psychiatrized can get a sense of what this reality can really be like and what that means to those of “us” who are somewhat less than delighted with bio-psych than are those who promote the system.

624642/18/2012 16:00
Metaphors for Experience

Whether we use metaphors deliberately and consciously, as ALL human beings do, to try to explain our experiences to psychiatrists and others in the system, or whether they come unbidden and uncontrolled from an altered state, the MAJORITY of psychiatrists consider them all to be essentially meaningless. Do you agree with that or not?

If they seemed to arise from within like a dream or a nightmare, while your eyes were open and taking in everything else in concrete reality as well, did these metaphors help you find meaning and understanding later on in your recovery? Mine did. Though at the time I found I could not either separate from them nor integrate them. Chaos prevailed for a time. It was VERY confusing to say the least, mirroring my actual experience in concrete reality which was being denied by all involved. They still do. I just don't care anymore.

If this describes something similar from your own experiences, what did your metaphors mean to you, consciously then, or not consciously until perhaps sometime afterwards?

417392/15/2012 13:25
Delusional Reversal of the Presumably 'Sane' Ones?

 

 

 

How many of you who have been psychiatrized for your reporting of personal experiences got to the point where you realized that your reality had been turned into what appeared to be the exact opposite of what it really was?
Is this a common experience and frequent sensing  of what goes on in dysfunctional groups and with psychiatry as well? If you have had an experience of this, how about sharing some of the concrete details here with those who are still struggling to make some sense of similar experiences?.

 

210642/15/2012 13:09
Let's Talk Back
This is the Forum for Psychiatric Survivours Who Want to Tell the Mental Illness System How They REALLY Feel about all the Help. Let's Talk Back to Those About the reality of the Reductionism and the labelling Process
341823552/14/2012 13:28

Pat's Disclaimer: the posts of other participants on this public board do not necessarily express my own personal beliefs, experiences or opinions. I agree with some things expressed by others as they experienced it, with some ideas for change and not with some others. However, I do believe in the right to the honest expression of experiences with some simple limits, delivered in a non threatening manner. If we all offer our ideas and suggestions, others may find something they can use too for their own recovery and growing well being. I also believe that the best support can come from those who got all the way through their own experience and managed to come out the other side of it. We can't always see where we are heading, but we can see where we have been. Talking about it openly and honestly just may help BOTH the talker and the listener. So welcome to a place of mutual support with good boundaries part of the mutual goal. Maybe we can create a better way or relating and communicating by our own example. It is worth a try.

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