Questioning Normality

“Normal” People Like to HIDE in Plain Sight

By Patricia Lefave, Monophrenic

We are not "allowed" to tell them we see them and hear them, because it will ruin their group insanity. They need to think that group insanity is "normal." Otherwise they might be crazy and know it. You know what psychiatrists like to say, "If you were really crazy, you wouldn't know it."

Let's test that theory. Ask all the people who think they are 'normal' if they are crazy and see what answer you get. Then really think about the answer. Are the normal people crazy or not? How do you know?

The number one delusion of the dysfunctional group or mob is the bizarre belief that they are 'hidden' in plain sight from those who are defined BY them as 'less than." So when you are on the receiving end of their projected delusion, which morphs into a dysfunctional GROUP delusion, you get both the little 'tests' from them to see what kind of a reaction they will get from the testing AND the obvious fact that they are 'testing' you to get a reaction. When we ask any of them, "Why are you doing this to me"? They claim they are not doing anything and that is because of the projected splitting. They MEAN that from within their own limitations of consciousness which they do not recognize for what they are. It means "we aren't doing anything that someone as 'inferior' as YOU could possibly see or understand." That TOO is their own projection.

The second part of that is what they believe they are 'hiding' from you. That is THEIR delusion, and they will fight like hell to keep from becoming aware of it. In reality, what they are 'hiding' is the truth about themselvesFROM themselves. What we get is a load of contempt, mocking and ridiculing for our "fault finding"[1] acted out by the group anti-socializing together and a non stop bombardment of contradictions of which we can make no sense at all. That is because we are correct; it MAKES no sense, as the people performing it do so out of their own senselessness which they DENY and project as always onto us..."you're having trouble making sense of things are you"?....they observe in their "wisdom." We 'admit' that. Doing so "proves" that as a US of course since as far as THEY are concerned they are the higher minds loaded with all the wisdom and awareness that we, in their opinions, do not possess.

This thinking process of the normal is DESIGNED to preserve itself; like brain washing, programming or hypnotism...whatever you prefer to call it. The well programmed know THEY are normal because they have agreed together to call what they think and do 'normal.' They really don't like anyone who brings their normality into question or who does not go along with it. That is why it is so often the "normal' people who support things like the Nazi agenda, join cults and kill the messengers. For how dareanyone even suggest that normal is actually abnormal! Those who would suggest it are obviously "mad!"

They cannot see us seeing and hearing THEM because their own arrogance blinds them to the truth about themselves. When, or if, on rare occasions, some of them realize they have been seen and heard acting out like duplicitous assholes, they still try to preserve their sense of themselves as 'normal,' usually by invalidating their victims motivations, perceptions and reactions in as many ways as they can think up. They have to make themselves right and get that reinforced by others who are just like them in order to preserve and maintain the dysfunctional status quo.

Being 'normal' you see has been defined by group consensus. That is also how genocides are justified. They are about getting rid of those defined as "abnormal", those who challenge "normality" and its definitions, as determined by those who define what IS 'normal.' Under such conditions, murdering babies and children becomes a "patriotic" act and a necessity.

Of course, if you are the child BEING murdered by adults you probably won't be able to share your murderer's viewpoint and it would no doubt be said that you were "having trouble making sense of things." Of course if you 'admitted' that, it would only confirm your inferior status and ensure your murderer that he was making the "right" choice. That is because that is how those with hidden agendas think; in self serving tautologies[2] which feed themselves.

I Remain on the Receiving End of It...

It is a city wide group delusion, of the barking mad, continued for the 'amusement' of those suffering from D.O.G.S. Syndrome. Listen carefully now for the endless supply of excuses used to avoid accountability by one and all, and the non stop projection of error which will all be seen as MY problem and not as anyone else's. Dale T. Is 'the source' , "at cause" of this particular version of it and all else are 'at effect' from his self deluded point of view. It is an open air madhouse where many of the most seriously labelled people are actually the most sane members of the community. Delusional reversal reigns supreme here.

Some of the excuses and reversals include:

I have to be the stupid and/or unconscious one: not them.

I'm fabricating stories- not them.

I have all the character flaws- not them.

I lack integrity- not them.

I can't be trusted- not them.

I'm laughing irrationally- not them.

I'm watching and listening in on them- not them, on me.

I can't be trusted, I should not be allowed into their apartments- they don't ever 'covertly' enter into mine.

I'm making a big deal out of nothing- they don't minimize abuse and excuse themselves for it.

I'm abnormal- they are normal.

This way you see, if they are mocking, psychologically and verbally abusing me, it is because I 'deserve it' but if I say anything about it, anything against them or even try to defend myself- I am just 'crazy' and therefore need my "awareness reduced." Otherwise you see, they would need their own awareness expanded and when you are controlling the world, you can't allow yourself to know that! It would end this favourite method used for group catharsis which is the primary benefit derived from having and protecting the D.O.G.S.S. If it is ended, there will never be enough booze, drugs, money or status to mask and suppress that volcano of concealed irrationality, rage, contempt and hatred, that lies just below the surface of those 'friendly' greetings and Cheshire Cat, telemarketing style smiles.

So howl D.O.G.S.S.! Howl and bark until you get the whole world's attention. Maybe if you bark, growl, whine, howl and snarl long enough, to enough people, the rest of the world will stop pretending they can't see you or hear you and YOU will be forced as they say in the est training that started this all, to Get OFF Your Game! There are no 'winners' in this game. It is a pyramid structure that is collapsing in on itself.

[1] The "fault finding" a " character flaw" in US while finding the fault in us is perceived as a sign of superiority in THEM. That is the nature of "splitting." It is REALITY that is being 'split" and its Source is in their own minds.

[2] Circular arguments which appear to explain something but which really only restate and reinforce themselves.


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Who Defines the Normal and Why?
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I believe we need to take another look at 'Normal' and how it all got to be considered to BE 'Normal. In doing so we may just find that a whole lot of what is now considered to be 'Normal' might better be described as 'common' or ‘habit.' Longstanding dysfunctional relating for example is very often called “Normal' by those who are used to it, who want to stay 'popular' in their group by keeping silent, or who “don't want to make waves “in the name of “getting along.” Often of course, those who are “getting along” are not really “getting along” with everyone and are part of a well practised scapegoating system. 

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