Questioning Normality

The Hinge

Basically, the superior people doing all the talking, mocking, ridiculing, laughing and acting out can't make the connection between what they are doing and the statement of the ones to whom they do it, that that ARE doing it. They can't make the connection because to make it, they would have to see themselves as they obviously are, and as we see them. If they did see themselves, they would have to relate as equals, or (God forbid!) from the first person and instead of third personning us, and the objectification process would be ruined. They may even be forced to perceive themselves as actually inferior in understanding to those they so freely mock. We can't have that now can we?

So to ensure the dysfunctional status quo is maintained, an alternate explanation for the victim's awareness must be generated. A perception/reaction problem located in the "inferior" individual fits the bill.

We cannot have a real or genuine relationship on any level with those who need us to deny the reality of our experience with THEM in order to be accepted by them. There is no real relationship there. It's just an act. Such people oblige us to pretend that we are not who we are and that we don't know them as they really are either. So the "choice" often becomes to deny our own reality, or at least to pretend to do so, in order to get their acceptance or just to stop the contempt and ridicule we get from them if we don't, or, to accept isolation and go it alone. For many of us, isolation is the far LESS stressful of the choices being offered by those who must be always right and never wrong.

It is very hard to understand dysfunctional GROUPS acting out like they do since it is hard to even imagine that adult human beings don't KNOW they are seen, heard and understood while talking about us from a few feet away. Sometimes a few of them who DO know, get into the act mostly because the opportunity to do so has been presented to them in a way that allows the abusers to get away with acting out on socially sanctioned targets. They give us what we "deserve" and often hope we DO hear them, even expressing that hope from a few feet away as well. Sometimes they say they don't care if we hear them and that is an expression of exactly who THEY are. Yet they expect their behaviour to be "overlooked" or even denied and the mental illness system to whom we report this group behaviour continues in its long standing denial of it all. The group stupidity is well supported by a system that denies the existence of it since it would be stupid and abusive for people to behave that way in groups. No shit huh?

So those of you on the receiving end of this:

If eventually you look at the four foot news-flasher and accept his or her self delusion as hisor her reality, which they are denying and projecting to preserve the idea of being "superior" in understanding and/or worth, then you can at least start to separate yourself from the other's delusion and the delusional beliefs of the group of people they involve via "contagion" who need you to be inferior, so that they WILL NOT BE. These are human beings who don't, won't, or can't, relate as equals. Who they are to your face and who they are behind your back, including when "behind your back" means from a few feet away, very often are diametrically opposed positions. If you understand though that those who do this are drawing a delusional line of their own between what you will know, and what you won't know, you can begin to understand the split they are creating in reality itself as the means to maintain their own delusions of grandeur.

They can't HEAR us talking to them about what they are doing IN REALITY because they believe we can't see or hear them acting it all out. The starting point of the delusion is in THEM.


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(Interacting with the non- psychiatrized as well where appropriate) As with all sites like mine, this is a good way to get out of psycho-social isolation, feel connected to those with similar experiences, and to share what helps and what does not.

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Who Defines the Normal and Why?
The Focus on this interactive page is going to be on the perspective we don't hear much about: the Normal group member and his or her role in the design and diagnosis of the assigned illness, given to the individual who gets psychiatrized, often for 'complaining' about his/her experience with 'others' as well as the Normal's function as a part of a Normal group.

Here we will shift the focus OFF of the psychiatrized one and ONTO the group as a whole, and some of its other members in particular.


I believe we need to take another look at 'Normal' and how it all got to be considered to BE 'Normal. In doing so we may just find that a whole lot of what is now considered to be 'Normal' might better be described as 'common' or ‘habit.' Longstanding dysfunctional relating for example is very often called “Normal' by those who are used to it, who want to stay 'popular' in their group by keeping silent, or who “don't want to make waves “in the name of “getting along.” Often of course, those who are “getting along” are not really “getting along” with everyone and are part of a well practised scapegoating system. 

So if you have some stories of your “Normal' experiences, this is the page for that.


As usual on these pages, please follow the few simple rules of communication and talk about; ideas or experiences generally, your own personal experiences without naming proper names, your feelings, your experiences  of the mental illness system, good or bad, in relation to your own personal experience with it.  Keep it connected on this page though to defining and questioning what is considered to be “Normal” thinking and behaviour. Do NOT name names, as this is a public board and liability laws apply. Keeping your sharing in the first person singular and/or in relation to ideas or concepts allows you to have your say and keeps you and me, safe from harm or legal problems at the same time.


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