Thinking Outside the

Psych Box

The Meta Issue 

Power, Control and Domination over Others,  as opposed to,

Self contained, Self actualization with Boundaries 

The world generally loves the power rush of the first without considering that what goes up too high must always come back down.


Philosophical Question for You
What if on a certain plane of human consciousness thought and communication actually existed on a universal and timeless level? How would that change our understanding of ourselves and of our overall existence?


Your Emotions Are Not Diseases
 They do not need to be eradicated. They are more like the brain’s OnStar system, used as guides to help you navigate your way through life. They signal you that something may be amiss and that there may be a better alternate route to take on your journey. It is up to you though, to LOOK at the map of your personal terrain and decide what may work better than the route you are currently following, in a way that will keep you from crashing and also avoid hitting anyone else along the way.


In Scandinavian research, ... mobbing is seen as an extreme social phenomenon, triggered by extreme social stressors, causing a range of negative effects, such as biological and psychic stress reactions.

Heinz Leymann

The Mobbing Encylopaedia




This is One of My Favourite Videos Recently

Take the time to Listen. It is about 45 minutes and expresses the long overdue need for great change in the awareness of those assessing and evaluating everyone elses.

Great job Prof. Mary Boyle, Glasgow

Dialoguing with, or without, Psychiatrists

By Patricia Lefave, Monophrenic

Recently I had it suggested to me that I was pretty naive if I thought I could actually dialogue with psychiatrists and get anywhere. We all pretty much feel like we are talking to the wall and there is no doubt about that. The activist who said that though really did not understand what I meant, so I decided to make a statement about it here, and elsewhere, as I think this needs some clarification.

I want to say that I am not someone who is talking about thinking I can get somewhere by dialoguing "with" them. In fact, I talk AT them and they pretty much ignore me to my face. BUT, a couple of them are reading my site locally and so are students in training and so are some police and there IS a public dialogue going on about it AROUND me while everyone pretends that are not listening. (The same old dysfunctional way as always!)

We are all dialoguing with them and with the public on a certain level all the time, because that is the position that most of us were FORCED into and THEY hold all the power: Concrete power. What I am talking about is the kind of tactic I use locally; changing the nature and the level of the dialogue in which we have been forced to participate starting by stating publicly that we ARE forced to either do this or accept or fates without protest, and we just can't do that, nor should we. So we MUST talk. We must talk because so many of us have been told that we must not speak and so we do speak because many of us live in countries that say they believe in the right to free speech, even as they ALSO tell us what we will be "allowed" to say, and to whom we will be "allowed" to say it.

We need to say THESE things publicly and not just amongst ourselves. We need to tell psychiatrists and the public how very frustrated we are trying to talk to them and trying to be heard. We need to say right out loud how we expect them to invalidate all we say by proclaiming it to be a "symptom" of ours so that it won't be a symptom of a sick society that thrives, sickly, on this "them and us" splitting and double standards that make all the sick, ever sicker, as both the victims of abuse and the perpetrators of it.

I tell them, as they don't answer, what answers I expect from them or that I know I will get none at all. I tell them why. I say that I know this is all built right into the dysfunctional system and can be predicted as an outcome before I even open my mouth to speak. I talk about the system's tactics which are used to protect itself.

This is sort of like talking on the level of oversight, like I observe, the observers and observe the machinations of the system. I try to sound like I am stating obvious facts but not like I am trying to convince anyone of them as I know most of them will not hear. Then I talk about why they won't hear.

Carrying picket signs doesn't work because unlike people speaking for human rights, who will be taken seriously in their actions at least, "our" similar action is simply pathologized out of sight, sound and out of mind[1]. I am pretty sure that at those conventions where you picket, the attendees go inside and immediately agree that all that "attention seeking" of "those people" really just gets so very annoying. Our labels blind others to our reality and in my opinion we must talk about this publicly on this level and not just among ourselves. Most of us know this already from experience so we are just preaching to the choir. With psychiatry though that statement I just made will be "interpreted" in terms of pathology something like this:

"Did you hear that Bob? She "thinks" she is in a church...there is more of that religiosity for you..." (And of course, "Bob," the bio psychiatrist will instantly agree. Thank god THEY don't have a disease like that!)

For we are regarded from the start as "crazy" people who only "think" our rights have been violated, or who are only SAYING that to seek fame, as our pathology causes us to do. This, IMO, is what we have to talk about publicly on THIS level. That is about revelation and not an attempt to convince psychiatrists to see us. It is more like TELLING them what they do NOT see which is right under their noses. Whether they listen or not is another matter, but while we are revealing it, members of the public will start listening, as is happening around me locally. Also a couple of psychiatrists are talking and this can cause a kind of ripple effect.

So we have to say things like, "we want the right to make our own decisions but hey, feel free to mock us for it since we know you do not see us as being as human as you who are doing the ridiculing.

When accused of "just seeking attention" we need to AGREE with that and SAY, "You are right about that you know. We ARE seeking attention and we are doing that for our own sakes as well as those following us into a system that is blind to both us, and itself. It seems to be getting so much worse too and this really scares us, for we can see what is coming, based on our own experiences with bio psych that the public at large has yet to recognize as reality.

So, I believe we need to change not WHAT we are saying but HOW we are saying it, and that means in enough "unnecessary" detail, to choke a horse.

We need to make them feel all "choked up."

[1] No pun intended


I Got Better Campaign-
REAL Hope  from the Psychiatric
Survivours Movement

What the Bleep Do We Know?

Another Perspective on Experience
Recommended for Psychiatrists and Psychiatrized
( as long as you are staying connected) . ..Alike
Should Quantum Physicists be 'helped'?

Logic Exercise
There are many platitudes and aphorisms used by humans as conversation or debate stoppers. This is one of my favourites of the idiotic concepts ideas.


"That is just the exception which proves the rule."


Dissect this statement in logical terms and explain how it is used as part of the splitting and defence group phenomenon of dysfunctional relating.

Everyone Was Just Shocked
Do you know why you are always “shocked” when a smiling, friendly, socialising type person in a position of authority turns out to be a serial killer? It is because you live in the same fantasy world that the killer promotes to hide himself. He is hiding behind the same mask; smiling, friendly, socialising authority who expects everything he says and does to be accepted without question. Any problem is thought to be in those who question him, and not in him, and/or in those who support and obey him. He is often the one he says ‘there is no ‘I’ in team’ because HE is the ‘I’ who is controlling the team.  

Question your assumptions and beliefs! 



To Comply, or Not to Comply? 

And is There Really a 'Choice'? 

This is called the practice of free speech which I am using here and which my democratic country claims to cherish and protect as a 'right.'

The system likes to pay compliant consumers who will promote the system at the same time that it invalidates and silences those who speak out against it. It is not at all uncommon that threats of further 'treatment' are used to silence the opposing viewpoint.

Have you ever noticed a common denominator in those who promote the system? Listen carefully to their personal stories and you will hear it, again and again.  By common denominator of course I mean other than the fact that they are often well known as writers, politicians, actors, sports figures, singers and other public faces.

Let's think about that for a bit shall we?

As one of my old elementary school teachers used to say, (while using “hand actions”) “Let's pull on our thinking caps!”