Thinking Outside the

Psych Box

The Meta Issue 

Power, Control and Domination over Others,  as opposed to,

Self contained, Self actualization with Boundaries 

The world generally loves the power rush of the first without considering that what goes up too high must always come back down.


Philosophical Question for You
What if on a certain plane of human consciousness thought and communication actually existed on a universal and timeless level? How would that change our understanding of ourselves and of our overall existence?


Your Emotions Are Not Diseases
 They do not need to be eradicated. They are more like the brain’s OnStar system, used as guides to help you navigate your way through life. They signal you that something may be amiss and that there may be a better alternate route to take on your journey. It is up to you though, to LOOK at the map of your personal terrain and decide what may work better than the route you are currently following, in a way that will keep you from crashing and also avoid hitting anyone else along the way.


In Scandinavian research, ... mobbing is seen as an extreme social phenomenon, triggered by extreme social stressors, causing a range of negative effects, such as biological and psychic stress reactions.

Heinz Leymann

The Mobbing Encylopaedia




This is One of My Favourite Videos Recently

Take the time to Listen. It is about 45 minutes and expresses the long overdue need for great change in the awareness of those assessing and evaluating everyone elses.

Great job Prof. Mary Boyle, Glasgow

Try Thinking About It

By Patricia Lefave, Monophrenic

(who is "seeking your attention" on this matter)

...Instead of just accepting your "training" without question..

To all of you determined to "help those people"

You are "those people" and "those people" are YOU. It is only the circumstances that are slightly skewed or "different."

I am one of "those people" who does not want your current brand of "help."[1]

So I am Talking Back, just like a naughty child you will no doubt feel you must "correct." David Rosenthal, in the "Thud" experiment said of his own experience of psychiatric hospitalization, "I felt like I wasn't really there."

(I know the feeling...same is surreal to watch and listen to others objectifying you according to their own, frequently delusional, needs and beliefs.)

Now, think about the "difference" one's definitions make when one imposes his or her beliefs on someone, as opposed to assuming the other is an equal human being and not either "more" or "less." It's all in the difference the definitions make.

Definition one: It must be awful to have a disease that makes you feel like you aren't really there.

Definition two: (first person experience instead of third person assessment of him or her)

It is awful to be defined as a disease- to have your life taken over by others, and your experiences, perceptions, and your reactions all invalidated and treated as irrelevant. It makes you feel like, as far as those around you are concerned, you don't really even exist as a person.

Yet both of these points of view can be defined by saying, "I felt like I wasn't really there."

It is the PREMISE of belief to which the statement is attached that supplies it with the meaning.

When one individual or group has the legal, concrete POWER to IMPOSE its choice of meaning on another individual or group, and to do so without question or any legal provision, or power, for the one being defined to oppose that definition, it gets very surreal and often stunninglysenseless as an experience.

That is about political POWER and control. It is not about real "diseases" and it is anything BUT "medical," the definition currently being used as the basis, or definition, of reality itself.

The most common and consistent effects of defining everything in life as a medical problem requiring "treatment" is the blaming of victims of abuse, the excusing of aggressors, especially those with "hidden" agendas, and the pathologizing of virtually everything else in life from confusion to daydreaming, to grief, to relationship problems, to trauma, to the effects of wars, bullying and even who you might have made out with last and how you performed when you did it (or did not do it) as "mental Illness"; a real illness "just like diabetes."

There is an older terminology we used to use for this sort of thing though it does not sound quite so scientific.

We called it "a crock of shit."

Now this, of course, is just my own opinion based on experience. I am expressing this opinion in a country that claims freedom of speech to be a human right. I am expressing it publicly, though told not to do so, because I am afraid it will soon be reframed as a "symptom" of my mental illness, because reframing it that way, will empower those who don't like my opinion, to have me picked up by the police, for my own good, to be 'treated', against my will if necessary, for the illness I have which is causing me to have no insight into my own condition, which is what will be used to justify doing it to me. (FOR me)

[1] Be sure to find the fault in me for SAYING that. That is how the status quo is sure to be maintained.


Patricia 2/14/2013
Thank you Kay for taking the time to leave your comments from your own experiences.
Kay 2/14/2013
This phrase "looking for attention" has always seemed extremely unhelpful to me. I was a mental health researcher for many years on a psychiatry ward of a general hospital where most of my time was taken up talking to people with eating disorders. Obviously there were people with other conditions there, so I'm quite familiar with all sorts of people said to have "a mental illness". It may surprise you to discover that I only rarely heard the words "attention-seeking" and then only from the mouths of new nurses on the ward or general nurses, particularly those who worked in Emergency. I recently lost a 40-year-old friend to suicide after he had presented to another hospital 4 times within 6 days with self-inflicted cuts on his arms and legs. That fourth time they turned him away as attention-seeking, called police and had him removed from Emergency, not even stitching up the latest cuts. So many mental health "professionals" don't seem to understand that behaviours they label "attention-seeking" are usually genuine cries for help by people in extreme psychological pain, trying to blot it out by inflicting a distracting pain on their body. In a way they ARE asking for attention- attention to their plight as imperfect human beings, unable to break through the chains in their minds into a more pleasant place. So treating the mentally ill like nuisancy nobodies is endemic in some institutions and they seem to selectively employ people who agree with them. I have discussed the "attention-seeking" label with psychologist and psychiatrist mates and we all agreed that it needs to be stamped out because it stops people in distress from getting the sort of help they need. I've also spoken with nurses who really believe that people who have taken overdoses or cut themselves are just trying to take away health resources from others. They are convinced that their division between the "deserving" and "undeserving" people are the correct ones and that my attitude is just "soft" and time-wasting. So hopefully there are teachers in nursing & medical schools who are educating the professionals of today about the reality of psychological pain and the need to find solutions for sufferers, rather than write them off as nuisances. I think it's worthwhile talking to people in training institutions and universities about what they teach their students about psychological pain and suicide attempts, cutting and cases where people drink themselves into unconsciousness or drug themselves with the contents of the medicine cabinet. We need a paradigm shift so that no one who needs psychological help is dismissed as a waste of time.
I Got Better Campaign-
REAL Hope  from the Psychiatric
Survivours Movement

What the Bleep Do We Know?

Another Perspective on Experience
Recommended for Psychiatrists and Psychiatrized
( as long as you are staying connected) . ..Alike
Should Quantum Physicists be 'helped'?

Logic Exercise
There are many platitudes and aphorisms used by humans as conversation or debate stoppers. This is one of my favourites of the idiotic concepts ideas.


"That is just the exception which proves the rule."


Dissect this statement in logical terms and explain how it is used as part of the splitting and defence group phenomenon of dysfunctional relating.

Everyone Was Just Shocked
Do you know why you are always “shocked” when a smiling, friendly, socialising type person in a position of authority turns out to be a serial killer? It is because you live in the same fantasy world that the killer promotes to hide himself. He is hiding behind the same mask; smiling, friendly, socialising authority who expects everything he says and does to be accepted without question. Any problem is thought to be in those who question him, and not in him, and/or in those who support and obey him. He is often the one he says ‘there is no ‘I’ in team’ because HE is the ‘I’ who is controlling the team.  

Question your assumptions and beliefs! 



To Comply, or Not to Comply? 

And is There Really a 'Choice'? 

This is called the practice of free speech which I am using here and which my democratic country claims to cherish and protect as a 'right.'

The system likes to pay compliant consumers who will promote the system at the same time that it invalidates and silences those who speak out against it. It is not at all uncommon that threats of further 'treatment' are used to silence the opposing viewpoint.

Have you ever noticed a common denominator in those who promote the system? Listen carefully to their personal stories and you will hear it, again and again.  By common denominator of course I mean other than the fact that they are often well known as writers, politicians, actors, sports figures, singers and other public faces.

Let's think about that for a bit shall we?

As one of my old elementary school teachers used to say, (while using “hand actions”) “Let's pull on our thinking caps!”