Messages Off of Everything, Everywhere, for Everyone...


It is  double standards which cause double binds.

The sense that we are not being heard by psychiatrists (and others) is reality based.

It's not that they are physically deaf but rather psychologically 'deaf' to what we are saying. 


Look for the patterns. Something to help make sense of it.

       from Survivor













The Real Meaning

Just because you don't understand what I am saying it does not prove that what I am saying cannot be understood, nor does it prove that I don't understand it myself.

Just because you see or hear no meaning in what I tell you, it does not mean there is no meaning there to see and hear.

If your ego is blocking the view and buzzing loudly in your ears, you will remain blind and deaf to the truth that is right in front of your nose. That is this:

I am saying what I mean, and meaning what I say.

I understand something that you do not.

For as long as you can't or won't accept that, because you are too busy defending your own errors, you won't be able to see me, or hear me, as I really am.

Timeless Visions, Voices and New Meanings
Voices Throughout the Ages, Changing Perceptions,  Reactionary People, Trapped Targets, Group Relationships etc.

From Leymann's

"Personality as a Diagnostic Feature"

One quite often hears the theory that a harassed person's "pre-morbid personality" should be blamed as the social factor that triggers for mobbing situations. This notion is also very widely spread amongst professionals. But until today, empirical research on adult mobbing, which began in 1982, has not been able to relate the cause of a mobbing process to the victim's personality. Not even similar research concerning child mobbing in schools (e. g. Olweus, 1993) has shown any such connection.

The ICD-10 and the DSM-II-R state that PTSD in its chronic phase can result in a permanent personality change. Especially the WHO manual ICD-10 (1992) describes typical symptoms found in individuals suffering from chronic PTSD (ICD-code F 62.0). This change, according to my clinical observations, seems to result in one of two predominating anxiety effects (in rare cases in both), either a serious depression or a serious obsession. We have seen individuals with both symptoms, mainly individuals who, after several years of trying to protect themselves, are still suffering from lengthy and daily victimization at work.

From Leymann's "Confict: Risk for Mobbing" Paper

Assertion: The more cohesive the group, the less conflict there is. The answer is yes. Cohesiveness can be defined as a sense of "we-ness". As long as this state is balanced within the group, conflict is not likely to occur. The cost of this may be that no member may give an opinion that "rock the boat" and that any member who does so will be the object of sanctions that may trigger mobbing. "We-ness" in its worst form has been called "group-think" and is seen as an exaggerated form of "we-ness". See below. If "group think" takes over, mobbing the whistleblower is rather inevitable.

Conflict is managed by means of communication, therefore, communication as such cannot be seen as the cause of conflict; instead, we must look at what is communicated.

Assertion: Personality has little effect on the development of conflict. This assumption has no support whatsoever in the psychosocial literature. Nevertheless, it is one of the most commonly claimed assumption to be found. One of the reasons for this may be that certain individuals or groups or organizations need to find a scapegoat. Attribution psychology deals very effectively with this false assumption. In fact, over and over again studies have demonstrated that an analysis of the social situation at hand gives better possibilities of predicting the actual behavior of individuals. Personality has a bigger influence on the group members initial behavior (the "get-to-know-each-other" phase) but not on the occurrence or development of conflict. The way to act in a conflict, how to try and master it, may be influenced by personality traits, but this, than, is true of all kinds of personality traits of people involved in the conflict. But the assumption above argues that acertain personality trait is to be blamed and that individuals with that kind of personality should be viewed with suspicion. This is nothing else but a simple prejudice. A psychological question of great interest is, of course, why this assumption is still there in spite of all evidence that prove it false.

From Leymann's: Information About Psychoterror in the Workplace

Unfortunately, but understandably, the problem leads to illness from mobbing.

...The attribution psychological theory describes why society very often wants to blame the victim. Another theory about stigmatizing describes the stereotypic development that marks the victim...A victim should never have to wait, suffering agony, for an organization to reform its psychosocial work environment one fine day. This development takes years. One area in this homepage is, therefore, directed towards how to work with statistical inquiries in order to measure the quality of the psychosocial work environment, and how to reform it...I know, and research is showing this, that many victims suffer after having received incorrect diagnoses, which is one of the real problems that further victimizes the individual...

From: Mobbing: It's course over time.

4. Incorrect diagnoses: If the mobbed person seeks contact with psychiatrists or psychologists, there is a great risk that these professionals will misinterpret the situation, as they very often lack sufficient training in investigating social situations in the workplace. Therefore, they also tend to judge the person due to some incorrect personality concepts. The risk is that the subjected person will be labeled with an incorrect diagnosis such as "paranoia", "querulous paranoia", "manic-depressive illness", "adjustment disorder" or "character disorder".

This judgment can destroy the person's chances of gaining anything from vocational rehabilitation in order to return to the labor market, or from occupational rehabilitation in order to be able to return to the previous occupation.

5. Expulsion: As far as the mobbing scenario at the workplace is concerned, the social consequences for people who have been expelled from the labor market long before retirement are well known. This situation is probably responsible for the development of serious illnesses (Groeblinghoff & Becker, 1996; or also Leymann, 1996) that cause the victim to seek medical or psychological help. However, as has been argued, the subjected person can very easily be incorrectly diagnosed by professionals, namely when they do not want to believe the person's story or when they do not bother to look into the triggering social events, as stated above.


Links to Articles on the Groupthink Phenomenon

Eight Main Symptoms of Groupthink
What is Groupthink?

Same Old Play; New Century

R.D. Laing
/Schizophrenia/Existentialism/Philosopher ...

Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide ©
Socialization to Killing
They [the SS doctors] did their work just as someone who goes to an office goes about his work. They were gentlemen who came and went, who supervised and were relaxed, sometimes smiling, sometimes joking, but never unhappy. They were witty if they felt like it. Personally I did not get the impression that they were much affected by what was going on — nor shocked. It went on for years. It was not just one day.
Auschwitz prisoner doctor

Robert Jay Lifton

Robert Jay Lifton, M.D. 

...In addition to cruel medical experiments, many Nazi doctors, as part of military units, were directly involved in killing. To reach that point, they underwent a sequence of socialization: first to the medical profession, always a self-protective guild; then to the military, where they adapted to the requirements of command; and finally to camps such as Auschwitz, where adaptation included assuming leadership roles in the existing death factory. The great majority of these doctors were ordinary people who had killed no one before joining murderous Nazi institutions. They were corruptible and certainly responsible for what they did, but they became murderers mainly in atrocity-producing settings. ..


International Cultic Studies


“A Bio Medical Mission was at the heart of Naziism”

“Socialization to Evil is all too easy...”

Robert Jay Lifton


When Patients See These Images, Their 'Interpretations' of What is Being Seen is Very Different to That of the 'Interpretations' of Others. These are Human Beings; Not Objects of Assessment, Interesting Cases, or 'Subjects'. If You Were Being Treated Like That, How Would YOU Feel? Happy?


The Entire Rosenhan Article, On Being Sane in  Insane Places, along with my own commentary relating it to my own experiences in the system, will soon be available from start to finish as a PDF file in this  section of this webpage.

The Pseudo-Patient Study



Last broadcast on Mon, 27 Jul 2009, 11:00 on BBC Radio 4.



Claudia Hammond revisits another classic psychology experiment, David Rosenhan's Pseudo-Patient Study, gaining access to his unpublished personal papers to discover how it changed our understanding of the human mind, and its impact 40 years on.

Between 1969 and 1972, the clinical psychologist David Rosenhan and seven other people - none of whom had a psychiatric diagnosis - got themselves admitted to 12 different psychiatric hospitals around the United States. They did this by presenting with a single symptom, saying that they heard a voice which said words such as 'empty', 'dull' and 'thud.' Once admitted, they acted completely normally. Nevertheless, they were kept in for periods of between 8 and 52 days. Seven of them were diagnosed with schizophrenia and were released as being 'in remission'; not one of them was judged to be sane.

After Rosenhan published On Being Sane in Insane Places in the journal Science in 1973, the psychiatric profession went on the defensive to protest its diagnostic competence. The study struck at the heart of their attempts to medicalise psychiatry and be accepted as proper doctors. Its impact was felt when the third edition of the profession's bible, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, came out in 1980: changes had been made which brought more rigour to the diagnostic process.

However, as Claudia discovers from Rosenhan's unpublished papers, for him the study was less an experiment of diagnostic efficacy than an anthropological survey of psychiatric wards. In a chapter of the book he never finished, she reads his poignant account of his own first admission, and his sense that 'minimal attention was paid to my presence, as if I hardly existed'.

Now suffering ill health and unable to speak, Rosenhan delegates his friends and colleagues professor of social psychology at Stanford University Lee Ross and clinical psychologist Florence Keller to speak to Claudia and show her the box containing previously unpublished material which throws new light on one of the most controversial and famous psychology experiments.



Recommended for Psychiatrists who believe that chemical imbalance explains everything and that the experience of psychosis is meaningless: here is a movie with "Message'' for you:

starring Kevin Spacey, as the psych patient who FEELS like an ''alien'' from another planet. I suggest you focus, not so much on the concrete details of his fascinating delusion but rather on the concepts behind the details. You just might learn something.


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