estian style disclaimer right at the premise:
Remember now...don't believe ANYTHING
I say. There. Now from this point on what you choose to believe is all YOUR
responsibility isn't it?
It is, above all, a demonstration of itself.
As the "Source", Werner/Jack, who clearly, to me
anyway, identifies with the power side of his creation, the power side of his Splitter self, and is the master of his own "recreation.”
(Which means to reproduce OR
to have fun, or both, depending upon the context in which the word is used.)
If Werner = "Total control, power, and domination,"
Jack = "Totally controlled, powerless and dominated" by the "Werner" side and is now "enlightened" about his "choosing" to be a victim.
(Has Jack has been suppressed by "Werner." Is Jack the "loser" in the game?)
Does it mean that Werner has suppressed the other "side" of himself and has dominated him?"
(Werner is "the Winner"?)
According to "Werner", Jack was a liar. Werner, however is not really Jack's opposite for "Werner is NEITHER
a liar, NOR
a truth teller, as Werner represents meaninglessness, for he is "balanced" on the edge of his own "Razor, which some have called it the razor's edge of sanity/insanity. He is now the non existent person who has "created something out of nothing" and then he has created NOTHING
out of something.
The Something? The est organization, information, and training seminars aka "the technology."
The "Nothing"? The meaning of est which has been "switched" with life itself and that is WHY
In est, the guru gets both
sides of It because HE
is at the top of his own "recreation" and represents BOTH
sides of his own "game." It is HIS
"game." e.s.t is abstract idea ANDLITERALLY
, est. (cute huh?)
It is (abstract idea which is an expression of the infinite and is "est" in Latin, meaning "IT IS.
e.s.t (which are also the initials which stand for "Erhard Seminars Training"- the CONCRETE
creation/structure used to recreate, continuously, the infinite loop which IT IS.
And what is IT
? Why, IT IS NOTHING.
It's meaningless apart FROM
the meaning with which its trainees GIVE
to It. That also means of course that the guru cannot be accused of knowingly, or intentionally, doing any harm can he? He also can't be held accountable for HOW
any of THEM
to hear and interpret IT
, or for any harm THEY
did to others, outside of e.s.t. since they chose to use It in whatever way
seemed useful to THEM
. He never tells anyone WHAT
to think; only HOW
to think in terms of meaninglessness, IF
they ever get IT
. Therefore he personally bears NO
responsibility for what others CHOOSE
to do with IT
What was "something"? It was the power, control and domination of his old identity. He made it all meaningless by switching positions
and then straddling the nexus
of meaning. (Werner's Razor) So he is NEITHER
side, but rather at the top of the pyramid structure as the "observer" of the action between all of those who are “beneath" him.
Now he doesn't have to feel afraid anymore AND
he can feel more powerful, in control and have others feel afraid of him; "Let me see your fear!" he says in the training...What I want to see is how afraid you are!"
(Let’s see how afraid you are when YOU
are the one attacked by a group/mob for "no reason," other than because your attacker, with a hidden agenda of power, domination and control wants to delude himself that has is the "winner" in the "game of life." So he just does It because he CAN
. That is the only REASON
"You may as well," says the guru of self promotion, without specifying what
he's referring to there, "you can't change anything anyway."
(So join the assholes who act out "spontaneously," without thinking about it, and with no reason in what they do? Is that like the idea; that if you can't beat them, join them?)
Want to hear a Few MORE
"Zen-like” examples of the integration of opposites?Like
, the one in est that goes, "There's Nothing to Get, so you get IT."
. Est is meaningless apart from any concrete context (or con-text yuk yuk...) with which YOU
supply it. Of course he who "created something out of nothing" has supplied it with HIS
own context which is???? The "technology" used to keep "recreating" It...which is???? the organization Itself and it's seminars, it's client lists, the information supplied by it's followers, often about other people, and it's continuous, or ongoing, nature, created by the infinite loop upon which IT
Try these ones below to practice “integration”:
1. There's Nothing to Say.
(Complete the integration of opposites by making it positive AND
negative at the same time.....???
2. There's Nowhere to Go to from here.
3. There's Nothing to Do.
Do you think you know what that means? Are they all negative statements to YOU
Are they abstract ideas, concrete statements or both?
What does it depend on? Not sure what I mean?
Do you assume that if YOU
don't know what they mean then I must be stupid and/or crazy?
If so, why do you think that must be the case?
What is motivating your judgments about it and about what I do, or do not, understand?
OK now listen to me "transform" these statements above, which for SOME
of you may seem like an "amazing" revelation.
- So I will say it then; "Nothing." There; now I’ve said it.
- There is a new town in Ontario I have just built and named, "Nowhere On." Want to go there with me from here?
- That's true. So do you want to do Nothing with me again and have another round of est aimed right at obtaining Nothing, to see if you can get it THIS time?
Est is the image of the dysfunctional group relating bit. THAT
is what you are really being enlightened ABOUT
according to what I "get" out of It and I DO
of It. Hope you get out of it too and also get IT
out of YOU
This construct conceals itself as part of its own nature. So you have to pay to get It, which most won't see as a stand alone construct, but only as part of their own beliefs and expectations.
If you are a "graduate," and therefore a member of the group, you will be instructed not to reveal the CONTENTS
of your training in it to "outsiders" or "non-estians."
Now as we have learned, when information is missing added, or "spun" then the MEANING
of what is actually going on changes drastically because of It. That is why there is some truth in the idea that "reality is all a matter of perspective” as was often said about est,
(Well except for the "all" part, which changes the MEANING
of the rest of the statement)
As was the statement, "there is no reality; only perception"
(Well except for the "no" part, which does that THERE
That is covered in est as "reality is substantial and will knock you on your ass."
Meaning of course your CONCRETE
which abstract ideas are only PART
of the story. While standing alone without any context, they are essentially meaningless
People who want REAL
that to others. People who don't really WANT
that from others because their POWER
by revelation. People do not pay to "get" something they already HAVE
So which do YOU
represent? Power OR
Enlightenment? The guru in this "joke/game" teaches his followers that they should not kid themselves that they can have BOTH
What do you think the Majority would pick? Do you think most of them would question the instruction ITSELF
that they MUST
make a "choice" between the two "sides" offered for the "choosing"?
Some of us, but we seem to be few, don't care all that much about "belonging" to a specific group so we tend to focus more on WHAT
is being offered and WHY
, than on WHO
is offering it and who else
agrees with It.Concrete Integration Exercise
Now let's connect It, just for "fun" to something concrete
Repeating again the estian abstractions just to refresh our memory:
"There is no reality; only perception" and "reality is substantial and will knock you on your ass."
If you aren't sure which is REAL,
try changing your perception of being a victim by connecting it to something CONCRETE
, like say, being a victim of the Holocaust. Do you think, that had it been you
, that changing your perception of It would have caused It to just "disappear"?OR
If you get shot by an aggressor, might you try changing your perception of the bullet hole so that it might just close right up and cease to exist?
Do the questions sound stupid? I agree.
So which of the estian abstractions might apply in these two examples? Would it be the one that goes,
"There is no reality; only perception"?OR
would it be the one that goes,
"Reality is substantial and will knock you on your ass."
Personally, I think that in relation
to these two concrete examples, I would go with number two. But then, I have not been successfully trained to believe that my life, or the lives of others, are just MEANINGLESS
. I am an unenlightened idiot who believes that it is this abstract paradigm
that is meaningless, except for the fact that It's power comes from the obfuscation used to distract, misdirect and gain control and domination over those who look for reason, where there IS
no reason, right from the start of the action
by the one who sells people absolutely NOTHING
, and calls IT
"enlightenment." (Or "education")
In the est training, now known as Landmark Education, they were told they would continue "until finished." "Finished" is defined as "the point where all further search stops."
We have reached that point. So STOP IT.
Now think in terms of forensics investigations; just for fun. Like my old imaginary boyfriend Gil Grissom put it, "When you have a faulty premise, nothing works."
Now, just for fun, HEAR
that like the one who says he "created something out of Nothing" just might hear It. Now think of his other statement, "We do it because It works."
What is "It"? It is NOTHING
. Might this be a tautological argument which creates a paradox? Well, the only way out of a paradox is to see it for what It is....
Some people, just generally
speaking of course, as an abstract idea I have, apart
from any concrete specific details, or identities, claim they are enlightening people when what they are actually doing is dragging them deeper into the darkness. Such people often will excuse themselves for it by claiming the others CHOSE
to go there of their own free will. Sometimes that is how those dragging others into the darkness justify the chains they use to get the reaction for which they went fission...or is that fishing?...or phishing???
(You know how confused an inferior like myself can get....sigh....)
"The truth is out there." Fox Mulder, The X-Files
Yes, It is...try to AVOID
hearing It now. The switch
is now ON.
(You won't take that the wrong way, will you? I sure hope not and I MEAN
that sincerely. But then I believe life, and all lives, are meaning-FULL
; so what would I know? After all, I think the switch is off, when others know the switch is on...perhaps it should be clarified as to WHICH
"switch" we are talking about when we are referring to IT.
For as we NOW
know, when there is a shortage, or absence, of concrete details to clarify meaning, by supplying It with context, we don't always really know what WORDS
mean, do we?)
But then, I am just crazy if I think this thing happened, so what would I know?
Now to close the loop:estian style disclaimer repeated at my conclusion
Remember now...don't believe ANYTHING
I say. There. Now from this
point on, from start to finish, what you choose to believe is all YOUR
responsibility isn't it? All I am saying here is what I
got. All of you have to get It
for yourselves; one way OR
another. It's your choice. As for me, I took what I got, which was "handed to me" by an est-ee, and then used It in the way that seems useful to ME
; just as the guru instructs
everyone to do. Out Here in the World of Reality
Here is another possibility which you could try opening yourself up to as well.
Perhaps we could try to stop living in a controller's fantasy world in which the only "choices" presented are controlling others, OR
being controlled BY
others, and get REAL
. Anyone who thinks that the only "choice" is to be totally controlled, OR
to have total control, is delusional on either, or both, "sides" of that. We all have PARTIAL
control over our own lives. PARTIAL
total, to varying degrees, and in relation to specific concrete details and circumstances. THAT
Believing that our only choice
is between "choosing" to be victims, or choosing to be aggressors, IS
the problem. It is the "position switching" which goes on generation after generation, in all dysfunctional GROUPS
to be realistic. CHOOSE
to STOP IT. CHOOSE
to set your own boundaries and stand inside THAT
loop of self defining reality, and choose to know that others can also
choose to do the same
. You don't have to agree
with everyone else's personal choices. You just have to know and accept that others have the SAME
right to choose to SELF
define as you do, and as long as they stay within their own boundaries, when they do so, and aren't trying to IMPOSE
their will on you, or invalidate you, as a human being
, nor do you try to impose your
will on, or invalidate them,
as human beings, we should not need to choose a "side." For then, we are ALL
on the SAME
side, in the same SPHERE
Life is not a contest of "winners and losers" and if you think that IT IS,
then maybe the only real way for you to "win" in the situation is to stop playing the game and put YOUR
focus on the con-test Itself and those who "test" you according to their own UNDER
. It is doomed to collapse in on ITSELF
. Don't "disappear with IT
" because you did not see It in time to "let It go," all by Itself and without you participating in IT.
Let It go right back to "The "Source"
from which It
After all as he himself says, IT IS NOTHING.
So stop paying for IT
The price is FAR